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tianxing
Contributor IV

Hi NXP support team:

Recently we encountered a tricky problem that when we removed the wakeup source for  FS26 it cannot power off occasionally. We found the VBOS voltage was quite weird. Compared to the normal situation VBOS voltage jumpped to about 5V and quickly went down. I post the capture of  measurement for these signals from logistic analyzer. Please refer to this and help us analyze this problem. In the below picture FS0B_VBOS is the voltage of VBOS  there is a  wave after FS26 enter into LPOFF status than all the other voltage that supplied by FS26 go wrong and FS26 cannot control the system power on again. I want to know the reason why VBOS act like this ?

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Below picture is the wave that FS26 powered down in a right sequence. All the voltages were normal ,VBOS voltage didn't jump and the system went power down smoothly.

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tianxing
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您好,我们是back-end regulator 

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tianxing
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您好,我们是back-end regulator 

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guoweisun
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1:客户下电是通过哪种途径实现的?

2:客户有没有实际测试过VBOS的电压在示波器上

3:正常下电跟非正常下电,客户有做了哪些不同的操作?还是说这个不正常下电是偶然发生的并无规律可言

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tianxing
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测试过VBOS的电压,正常下电和非正常下电是同一个操作。
不正常下电是偶然发生,10块板子现象都不一样,有些比较严重每次都不正常,有些就需要10次左右出来一次,目前天津这边的安工也在帮忙分析这个问题
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guoweisun
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1:Allan能帮忙分析这个问题就可以了,我还是想知道客户是通过哪种方法下电的?

2:我想知道客户的10块板子用的料都是一模一样的吗? FS26有很多个part number

3:客户有没有做过交叉测试就是用好板子上的fs26换到坏板子上情况有所改善吗?能排除是PCB焊接的问题吗?这个可能需要很久的时间做这些测试

 

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tianxing
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1.是通过移除唤醒源下电的 wake1 脚的唤醒源被拿掉后 触发FS26执行下电,这时VSUP是一直在的

2.10块板子用料是一样的而且是同批生产

3.没有做过这样的交换

目前有一块现象严重的板子(每次下电都发生异常),我们去掉了 VCORE和VPRE 后端的负载(两个电容)下电异常的现象就不出现了,我们想知道为什么这样修改异常现象就消失了,还想知道这样修改是否可行,能否彻底解决这个问题?

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修改电路后的下电时序图

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guoweisun
NXP TechSupport
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HI

没太看懂您写的英文,能都用中文描述下问题多谢!

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tianxing
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FS26 下电异常时发现VBOS 的电压有波动,会下调到一个比较低的幅值然后再上调。 但正常下电时没有这样的波动,我们想知道VBOS发生这种异常的原因,请您帮忙看看,谢谢 下图是正常下电时的状态,FS0B_VBOS是逻辑分析仪测量的VBOS电压状态,此时VBOS从4.99下降到4.6V左右然后一致保持这个电压,系统顺利下电了。

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下图是 异常下电时的波形,可以看到红色框里面的VBOS电压下调到4.38V左右然后又上调到5.18V然后再下降到4.99V此时系统不能正常下电,在所有这些现象出现时,

 

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VBOS是最先出现异常的,不知道是什么原因导致的。

 

 

 

 

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guoweisun
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1:客户是哪种用发VBOST   ---> back-end regulator OR Front-end regulator?

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