What was the last CodeSourcery Lite for Coldfire Version before Mentor bought them?

[TomE]

We're using CodeSourcery Lite for the Coldfire chips, and are runnng the Windows version.

I'd like to convert to a Linux build and went to fetch the latest release, only to find it doesn't exist any more.

"www.codesourcery.com" now ends up at "http://www.mentor.com/embedded-software/codesourcery".

Even "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CodeSourcery" redirects to "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mentor_Graphics", where the only mention of the redirect is on the "Talk" page.

Google found me this, dated December 2010:

http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Mentor-acquires-key-assets-of-CodeSourcery/

There are no free CodeSourcery distributions for FreeScale parts. There are ones for AMP< Arm, Intel, MIPs, Power and Renesas only.

Is anyone else using CodeSourcery?

What was the last version you saw or retrieved?

Tom

[TomE]

I wrote: > There are no free CodeSourcery distributions for FreeScale parts. There are ones > for AMP, Arm, Intel, MIPs, Power and Renesas only. Either I had a big brain-fade that day, or this page has been updated since I last looked: http://www.mentor.com/embedded-software/sourcery-tools/sourcery-codebench/editions/lite-edition It now lists Lite; editions for AMP, Arm, Axxia, ColdFire, Intel, MIPs, Power and Renesas. I've just remembered that for the GCC ColdFire compiler there may be some reasons not to update from 4.2 to 4.3 and 4.4. In many cases the 4.2 compiler generated better code than the 4.4 one now does. Tom p.s. I'm assuming the format of this reply is 'all jammed up' without formatting or line feeds. I've tried about 10 times to fix it, but the forum editing is playing up. I can't see the normal editing or quoting toolbars anywhere today.

[J2MEJediMaster]

Not to get too far off topic here, but what browser and what system are you using?

---Tom

[TomE]

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J2MEJediMaster wrote:

Not to get too far off topic here, but what browser and what system are you using?

---Tom

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FireFox 5.0 on Windows 7, and there's no toolbar showing today either.

Fixed with "Shift Reload' (Reload and Override Cache). I've documented this in a new post on the "Forum Use and Policy" newsgroup.

BTW, if the Timestamp is showing strange times (mine has always showed GMT) then you need to go into "Freescale Forums / My Settings / Preferences" and set the "Time Zone".

For the benefit of anyone trying to read my previous mangled post, here it is unmangled:

I wrote:

> There are no free CodeSourcery distributions for FreeScale parts. There are ones

> for AMP, Arm, Intel, MIPs, Power and Renesas only.

Either I had a big brain-fade that day, or this page has been updated since I last looked:

http://www.mentor.com/embedded-software/sourcery-tools/sourcery-codebench/editions/lite-edition

It now lists Lite; editions for AMP, Arm, Axxia, ColdFire, Intel, MIPs, Power and Renesas.

I've just remembered that for the GCC ColdFire compiler there may be some reasons not to update from 4.2 to 4.3 and 4.4. In many cases the 4.2 compiler generated better code than the 4.4 one now does.

Tom

[TomE]

> It now lists Lite; editions for AMP, Arm, Axxia, ColdFire, Intel, MIPs, Power and Renesas.

Three years on and that list has changed to AMD64, ARM, LSI Axxia, Altera Nios II, MIPS and Qualcomm Hexagon.

I think they know nobody is starting development on Coldfire or PPC any more.

Tom

[yibbidy]

Hi Tom,

PowerPC EABI and Linux versions are still available in the paid versions, which start at USD399.  I purchased the Coldfire (and ARM EABI Personal Edition's) about six months before your post but it looks like they've pulled the Coldfire paid versions now.

Shaun

[TomE]

> it looks like they've pulled the Coldfire paid versions now.

The following page still lists "ColdFire" as being supported by "Sourcery Codebench":

http://www.mentor.com/embedded-software/supported-processors

It also lists MIPS, MIPS32, MIPS64, Stellaris and Fido as being supported.

But this page, which is a Tab on the "Sourcery Codebench" Product Page only lists, ARM, Power and IA64:

http://www.mentor.com/embedded-software/sourcery-tools/sourcery-codebench/platforms/

That page is matched by the "Buy Now" link that only shows the above targets.

While at the BOTTOM OF THE SAME ("Sourcery Codebench" Product) PAGE it lists "Supported Processors" as "ARM, ColdFire, MicroBlaze, MIPS, NIOS II, Power, SuperH, IA32".

I'm guessing they haven't updated their web pages properly or consistently.

I was going to let them know about that, but the only "Feedback" options are "Sales Query", and "Create an account to participate in the Forum".

Tom

[zinger]

did you try

http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/overview.jsp?code=CW_BSP_COLDFIRE

[TomE]

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zinger wrote:

did you try

http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/overview.jsp?code=CW_BSP_COLDFIRE

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Quoting from that mage:

    These BSPs, combined with CodeWarrior tools, provide the foundation you need to begin your project

CodeWarrior isn't free. CodeSourcery was free, but now costs $1600/user.

I can't even work out from Freescale's web site which CodeSourcery edition we'd need to build and then debug with an external PE Microsystems USB pod. it might even be one of the $5000 ones, as that's the only one I could see listing support for that debugger hardware.

Tom

[J2MEJediMaster]

There is a "lite" version of CodeSourcery that is free on the Freescale web site. Enter CodeSourcery into the Keyword search box at the upper right of this web page and it will show up. The caveat is that the version is four years old and no support is offered.

There are special editions of CodeWarrior that are free, but they have code size or file number limits. If you're working on a Linux implementation, you will probably exceed those limits, but it might be worth investigating.

File a Service Request for that missing information on the run controller support. Maybe it's on the Freescale site somewhere, but if so, it's needs to be made easier to find. That's not doing you (or Freescale) any good.

---Tom

[TomE]

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J2MEJediMaster wrote:

There is a "lite" version of CodeSourcery that is free on the Freeacale web site. Enter CodeSourcery into the Keyword search box at the upper right of this web page and it will show up. The caveat is that the version is four years old and no support is offered.

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That link looks like an "accident"; like a leftover that hasn't been cleaned up. All other "CodeSourcery" links on all of the product pages now point to the Mentor site and don't have a "download" option any more.

That link also downloads a file called "freescale-4.1-powerpc-linux-gnu.exe" so it is for Power and not ColdFire.

Mentor still has a free version of CodeSourcery for Power available called "Sourcery G++ Lite 2010.09-56" which is at least later than their 4.4-196 version (and a lot later than the 2007 4.1 version you found).

> There are special editions of CodeWarrior that are free,

We're not running under Linux but we have over 512k of code and data. "Free" is limited to 128k, "Basic" to 512k.

I'll submit a Service Request on CW debugger support.

Thanks,

Tom

[JimDon]

First of all, Sourcery Lite, the free one, was just the command line tools, and never even attempted to support any sort of debugging. There was a DBG sprite, but usless for Linux. I tried the IDE several times (not for Linux) and never got it to connect or work at all. Sourcery tech support did not even care at the time.

I don't think that you can get away with charging for a gcc build - I'd be willing to bet that if you download the eval, the open source command line tools will work even after the eval.