Is MK66 discontinued?

[Telecom_Eric]

WTF is going on with the K66 parts? We have some MK66FN1VLQ18 parts on order for a year and a half, and there is no delivery date in sight. I need a straight answer from NXP. Have they decided to discontinue this part? Or are they just supplying parts to huge customers only. 

How can they expect ANYONE to live with two year lead times? We can't migrate to another series as we need the ethernet, mii, webpage and the RAM. Not to mention other NXP parts aren't any more available.

Please, someone from NXP tell me if this part is out of production....go ahead and discontinue it if you don't have any plans to manufacture it.

Thank you

[ICdirect]

Hey @Telecom_Eric 

Are these MK66FN1VLQ18's still an active requirement? 

One of my clients has excess OEM stock available on these if you're interested in looking for solutions. 

Let me know or shoot me an email alessandro@directics.com 

[Telecom_Eric]

Hello,

Digikey finally shipped our oldest order after a two year wait. We still have large open orders with both Digikey and Mouser.

I take it you are a "broker" and would be asking the typical 10x the retail price. If your client is willing to let them go at a 2X price, we would entertain it. But otherwise, thanks, but no thanks.

-Eric

[ICdirect]

I get it. I work for an independent stocking distributor, functions very similar to a broker but add a test lab and warehouse. 

How many pieces would you need? Send me an email, I’ll take a look for you and get back to you with pricing, dc’s and lead time. 

alessandro@directics.com 

[mccoder]

I have multiple different Kinetis parts on order, some dating back to March 2021.  Here's the lead times that were provided:

11/23/22 to 7/18/23 to 3/23/23 to 12/28/22 to 4/19/23 to TBD to 3/5/24   (TBD was the worst!).  That made planning challenging...

So about 3 years after the order was placed.  NICE.  I understand there is a global shortage, but Analog Devices is now down to 13 weeks for 50% of its parts, with 95% at 13 weeks by October.  In fact, our company has received virtually all of our open "Global Shortage" parts except for one company.  Specifically, one family within that company.  NXP/Kinetis.  

Good luck Eric!

[Telecom_Eric]

mccoder,

Can I ask which distributor you have them on order with? We have orders with both Digikey and Mouser, our oldest order is from Apr of 21.  Now they've pushed that one out to February of 23. Almost three years.

We have been tapping into the broker market and paying over 5 times the normal price. When I chat with my NXP sales manager, he said I would have better luck expediting with Future or Arrow. That's why I'm asking you whom you ordered parts from.

I wish they would just tell us they don't plan on offering them to anyone anymore. Then we could design it out... never using NXP again.

[bobpaddock]

Arrow has not treated us any better for some of the other Kentits. parts. Our Arrow guy described them as "Old".

Mark, one of the other form members, described the issue as NXP is competing with themselves for foundry time. Foundry time is auctioned off. So higher bids are put on the newer (higher profit) lines like the i.MX to get foundry time.

Ultimately all information comes from NXP. Telling us to contact distributors and such is disingenuous at best.

We must appreciate that this is a Technical Form and those supporting us here from NXP have no more insight to NXP Management Level decisions than we do. Foundry time bids for example.

I already am designing NXP and Bosch out because of how things have been handled the last few years.

[Telecom_Eric]

Hey Bobpaddock,

It's good to know that Arrow isn't any better at expediting. My NXP distribution sales manager friend has not been able to shed any light on this dilemma, and he has said multiple times to move away from Kenetis. I've never seen a manufacturer push out a product by attrition. 

I think I saw the post about bidding for fab time, and it does make sense and explains why they aren't producing. But NXP needs to do a better job of saying this to their customers (distribution) so the end users (us) can plan better. 

We will have no choice but to re-design our products. Nxp has been a major letdown, and I will never use them again.

[mccoder]

Hi Eric,

We have a three hundred or so on order through Digikey but the bulk of them (a couple thousand of different flavors) ordered through Mouser.  Delivery times sat at TBD for a couple of months which really freaked us out but last week we finally got some dates again.  I'm not entirely sure they are realistic -- I have trust issues these days given the bogus dates NXP supplied Mouser previously (per my previous comment). 

We've considered going with Future but their MOQ was too high since we use a wide mix of the Kinetis families.  We've ordered from Arrow in the past but they never really carried stock.  That's what we like about Mouser/Digikey.  Parts available almost immediately (until the chip shortage).

I know that making the chips is a lengthy process but holy smokes.  Saying parts will be delivered a year from now when they've already been on the books for two years is crazy...

Agreed on the "Longevity" answer we get from NXP.  Price and performance-wise, there are much better alternatives out there these days but as a small business it takes time to redesign the software and hardware - we run lean and mean.  All of our future products on the books have NXP designed out (not just micros -- everything!).

We had a pretty good stockpile of micros so we haven't had to hit up the broker market.  One part we use that sells for $2.30 was going for $500... And we needed three of them.  Yikes...  Can't afford that!

Best of luck!

[Telecom_Eric]

Great to know that it hasn't been discontinued. But it also hasn't been manufactured for two years. You mentioned I should check with distribution, we have 4 open orders with distribution, and one is now over a year and a half old. No ship date is mentioned. I know you are only tech support, and not sales, but what can we do to expedite delivery? Is it part of NXP's plan to hold off on production until all of the customers design it out? I can assure you NXP will not be in our future development plans if this is the case.

[vicentegomez]

Hi

Due the current global chip situation the availability of the parts you need to check it with your local distributor, but as you can see on the following link

https://www.nxp.com/products/nxp-product-information/nxp-product-programs/product-longevity:PRDCT_LO...

The K66 is part of the product's longevity.

So the part is not discontinued  

Regards