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MC56F84789 missing PWMB registers definitions in MC56F84789_rev1.0.h

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martinmeier
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The Reference Manual for the MC56F847xx family states that PWMB has the registers: PWMB_SMnFRACVALx and the PWMB_SMnFRCTRL (pages 744-751).

They were included in the last revision as stated on page 1097 (A.28 PWMB changes).

The processor header file (...\CW MCU v10.6\MCU\lib\wizard_data\DSC\DataBase\derivatives\include\MC56F84789_rev1.0.h), however, do not include them, and it has to be done by hand.

Does the processor really have the fractional registers for PWMB?

 

page 1097 (A.28 PWMB changes) also states that:

"In Introduction section, reworded to clearly indicate that PWMB supports digital dithering, while PWMA does not

support digital dithering."

 

However, in page 743, the introduction says the opposite:

The primary difference between PWMB and PWMA: PWMA supports NanoEdge placement (digital dithering); PWMB does not support NanoEdge placement (digital dithering).

 

I suppose that page 743 is correct, as the rest of the document support its version. Am I correct?

 

 

Thanks for the attention.

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johnlwinters
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Dear Martin,

I now clearly see the issue in the latest edition of the document.  First, please review this section:

28.4.2.9.2 Fractional Delay Logic without Micro-Edge Placement Block


For submodules that are not supported by the micro-edge placer, the PWM can use


dithering to simulate fine edge control. Enable this feature by setting the


FRCTRL[FRACx_EN] bits. It is unnecessary to set FRCTRL[FRAC_PU]. The PWM


period or the PWM edges will dither from the nearest whole number values to achieve an


average value that is equivalent to the programmed fractional value. For example, if you


want the PWM period to be 50.2 clock cycles, then program VAL1 with 0x0032 and


FRACVAL1 with 0x3000. The PWM period will be 50 cycles long most of the time, but


will occasionaly be 51 cycles long to achieve a long-term average of 50.2 cycles.


In submodules that are not supported by a micro-edge placer, the clock frequency is not


required to be any specific value to achieve proper operation.

It is clear that "digital dithering" is only needed when nano-edge placement is not available.

Digital dithering is available only for PWMB.

PWMA has nano-edge placement.

The issue is introduced in a recent version of the documentation that EQUATES "nano-edge placement" with "digital dithering".

They are in fact mutually exclusive.

The document shall be revised to strike the pharses "digital dithering" where they wrongly appear as in the below:

"The primary difference between PWMB and PWMA: PWMA supports NanoEdge


placement (digital dithering); PWMB does not support NanoEdge placement (digital


dithering)."

Such that it will instead read something like:

The primary difference between PWMB and PWMA: PWMA supports NanoEdge


placement (but does not digital dithering); PWMB does not support NanoEdge placement (but does support digital


dithering).

Thank you for pointing this out.  We will also correct the header files as required if after review we find that the registers needed for digital dithering are missing in the IDE.

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johnlwinters
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Dear Martin,

I now clearly see the issue in the latest edition of the document.  First, please review this section:

28.4.2.9.2 Fractional Delay Logic without Micro-Edge Placement Block


For submodules that are not supported by the micro-edge placer, the PWM can use


dithering to simulate fine edge control. Enable this feature by setting the


FRCTRL[FRACx_EN] bits. It is unnecessary to set FRCTRL[FRAC_PU]. The PWM


period or the PWM edges will dither from the nearest whole number values to achieve an


average value that is equivalent to the programmed fractional value. For example, if you


want the PWM period to be 50.2 clock cycles, then program VAL1 with 0x0032 and


FRACVAL1 with 0x3000. The PWM period will be 50 cycles long most of the time, but


will occasionaly be 51 cycles long to achieve a long-term average of 50.2 cycles.


In submodules that are not supported by a micro-edge placer, the clock frequency is not


required to be any specific value to achieve proper operation.

It is clear that "digital dithering" is only needed when nano-edge placement is not available.

Digital dithering is available only for PWMB.

PWMA has nano-edge placement.

The issue is introduced in a recent version of the documentation that EQUATES "nano-edge placement" with "digital dithering".

They are in fact mutually exclusive.

The document shall be revised to strike the pharses "digital dithering" where they wrongly appear as in the below:

"The primary difference between PWMB and PWMA: PWMA supports NanoEdge


placement (digital dithering); PWMB does not support NanoEdge placement (digital


dithering)."

Such that it will instead read something like:

The primary difference between PWMB and PWMA: PWMA supports NanoEdge


placement (but does not digital dithering); PWMB does not support NanoEdge placement (but does support digital


dithering).

Thank you for pointing this out.  We will also correct the header files as required if after review we find that the registers needed for digital dithering are missing in the IDE.

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martinmeier
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Thank you John.

Now I am shure we understood each other.

I wish you a happy "mutually exclusive" new year.

Martin

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johnlwinters
NXP Employee
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Thanks Martin,

Please let us know if we can help out on your project any further.

Best Regards,

John L. Winters

Senior Applications Engineer

AMR/EU MCU & MPU AE Group

Freescale Inc.

2100 Elliot Road

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johnlwinters
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After review, the latest CW, 10.6 with updates shows the required registers within Processor Expert GUI to control the "digital dithering" for PWMB:

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zhangzeliang
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Maybe the  PWMB and PWMA both suppport the NanoEdge placement now according to   the  newest Reference Manual . I notice they add the PWMB Fractional Registers that the early Reference Manual doesn't have. And the cw10.6 has these Registers too , though they aren't including in the MC5684789.h. Anyway you can test  whether it really has it.

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johnlwinters
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"The primary difference between PWMB and PWMA is that PWMA supports NanoEdge placement. PWMB does not support this feature." - the reference manual for MC56F84789.

Digital dithering can be performed in software to provide more resolution for PWMB. It involves alternating between two counts to give the approximate effect of an "in between count".

However, PWMA is capable of actual NanoEdge placement without resorting to this method.

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martinmeier
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John,

I saw in the reference manual what you wrote.

However, page 1097 (A.28 PWMB changes) also states that:

"In Introduction section, reworded to clearly indicate that PWMB supports digital dithering, while PWMA does not

support digital dithering."


It seems that the reference manual is contradictory. Also, all the registers for PWMB_SMnFRACVALx are there and are there is nothing else stating that those registers are not functional.


Whom may I write to so that it can be reviewed?

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johnlwinters
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Hi

Dithering means to alternate between two values. If you have nano edge you do not need dithering. Also the existence of registers does not imply their support if higher level documentation negates them.

Best Regards,

John L. Winters

Senior Applications Engineer

AMR/EU MCU & MPU AE Group

Freescale Inc.

2100 Elliot Road

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martinmeier
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Dear John,

I understand what you say. The problem is that the higher level

documentation is saying the opposite in two/three different parts of the

reference manual. That's why I went to look the at the registers. Also,

PWMA and PWMB are two entirely different chapters in the reference

manual, by witch I would assume that their documentation describes their

functionalities correctly, since they are not condensed in one chapter.

I thank you for your attention, and I am very sorry that freescale don't

want to know about "documentation bugs".

Martin

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