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USB3.0 Device Mode LS1021a

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jiye
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Hi,

I have a ls1021a stand alone chip and type C male connector connects to the CPU, I want to plug this device into PC so my board can act like a device mode. What specifications I need to follow to make it work as device mode?

For example, is USB_ID pin from the CPU side I need to leave it as floating ?

Below is my design:

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can anyone tells me what is wrong here?

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ufedor
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Please refer to the LS1028ARDB schematics page "28_LS10128 USB - TypeA & C" available at:

LS1028ARDB Development Board with high-speed interfaces and integrated TSN for Industrial IoT | NXP 

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jiye
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I know this document, my question is are type C and type A are handled differently?

Because in the page 28

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USB1 (type A) and USB2 (type B) are designed differently.

If I use the type C design, can I plug into a Type A host using an USB adapter (Type C to Type A) 

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ufedor
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The connection schematics is incorrect in your case.

Please refer to the LS1028ARDB schematics page "28_LS10128 USB - TypeA & C" available at:

LS1028ARDB Development Board with high-speed interfaces and integrated TSN for Industrial IoT | NXP 

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jiye
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sorry you replied too fast as I edit my post which part is wrong can you please highlight it ?

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ufedor
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Do you see that LS1028ARDB schematics page "28_LS10128 USB - TypeA & C" is not similar to yours?

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jiye
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I know it has both type A port and type C port but if I only have type C port and I want to plug into both type A host or type C host what is your recommendations ?

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ufedor
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We do not have such reference designs.

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jiye
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ok let's focus on type C, I dont have CPLD in my case,

I have two scenarios.

(1) I removed the PTN5150A and there gonna be no CC1 and CC2, what pin strapping do I need for the USB_ID ? floating or pulled-up?

(2)I keep the PTN5150A what pin strapping do I need to for  the USB_ID, CON_DET AND CC1 and CC2 to work as device mode ?

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ufedor
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CPLD is not involved in the USB type C connection.

USB2_ID and USB2_BUFF_CON_DET are just shown in the USB_STAT register.

It is required to use PTN36043 and PTN5150A for the type C implementation.

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jiye
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(1) what does this mean "

USB2_ID and USB2_BUFF_CON_DET are just shown in the USB_STAT register."

(2) If CPLD is not involved, what signals should I consider to handle the USB detection event( e.g. DRVVBUS should I make this as GPIO in the RCW so I can control it, if so how to control it ?, PWRFAULT do I need to consider this signal as well? if so how) because I found this thread answered by you

usb over-current condition on ls1021a board 

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ufedor
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1) Refer to the QorIQ LS1028A Reference Design Board Reference Manual, Rev. 1, 3.19 USB Control (USB_STAT).

2) Please refer to the AN4878 - QorIQ LS1021A Design Checklist.

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jiye
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(1) How to read and write to this register? How to access this ?

(2) that is for 3.0 not type C

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ufedor
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1) Do you have LS1028ARDB?

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jiye
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no I dont, I only have ls1021a-TWR which I modified to device mode and it works

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ufedor
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The LS1021A-TWR has similar CPLD having memory-mapped registers accessed by means of IFC controller.

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