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Fail to program FXTH87xx11 using USBDM

Question asked by sunrme on Dec 8, 2014
Latest reply on Apr 3, 2017 by Sumir Jha

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Hi all,

I tried to use USBDM to program the FXTH87xx . But in the list of chips in Flash Programmer this MCU is absent. So, I insert this in the hcs08_devices.xml:

<!ENTITY HCS08-alt-load-flash SYSTEM "HCS08/FXTH87xx11_Starter_Project_CW10.abs.s19">

<flashProgram id="HCS08-alt-load-flash">

&HCS08-alt-load-flash;

</flashProgram>

<device family="HCS08" name="FXTH87xx11">

<memory type="ram">

<memoryRange start="0x000090" end="0x00028F" />

</memory>

<memory registerAddress="0x1820" type="flash" securityAddress="0xFFB0">

<securityEntryRef ref="HCS08-fnored-security"/>

<memoryRange start="0x00C000" end="0x00DFBF" />

</memory>

<sdid value="0x002C" />

<flashProgramRef ref="HCS08-alt-load-flash" />

</device>

I'm not sure thay I use right values especially securityEntryRef section. But now flash Programmer detect my chip. But when I click Program Flash, on EraseMass status pop up error:

Hope someone can help me.

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pgo Dec 22, 2014 6:26 PM

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Hi Sunrme,

Could you change the end address in the XML file to 0xDFFF as it appears that there is a pseudo-vector table to be programmed as well. Also remove the references to security - in other words use the following:

<device family="HCS08" name="FXTH87xx11-Partial-Erase">

     <memory type="ram">

        <memoryRange start="0x000090" end="0x28F" />

     </memory>

        <memory registerAddress="0x1820" type="flash">

           <memoryRange start="0x00C000" end="0xDFFF" />

     </memory>

     <sdid value="0x002C" />

     <flashProgramRef ref="HCS08-alt-load-flash-program" />

     <note>Untested</note>

</device>

Make sure you select EraseSelective when programming.

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sunrme Dec 9, 2014 11:11 PM

I attached log files, mb it will help

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George Peterson @ sunrme on Dec 11, 2014 4:20 PM
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There does not seem to be much support for this device on the forum.
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pgo @ sunrme on Dec 17, 2014 8:31 AM

Hi Sunrme,

The error message in the supplied log file is very strange and appears to have nothing to do with the device being programmed. That is, the error should be impossible as it is complaining about a self check on the provided programming algorithm.

Could you please update to a more current version of USBDM as the one indicated in the log file is quite old.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/usbdm/files/Version%204.10.6/Software/

You will also need to update the BDM firmware.

And then try adding the following to the HCS08 config file and repost the logs please. This is basically the same as you suggested.

<device family="HCS08" name="FXTH87xx11">

<memory type="ram">

<memoryRange start="0x000090" size="0x28F" />

</memory>

<memory registerAddress="0x1820" type="flash" securityAddress="0xDFFB">

<securityEntryRef ref="HCS08-fnored-security" />

<memoryRange start="0x00C000" end="0x00DFFB" />

</memory>

<sdid value="0x0000" />

<flashProgramRef ref="HCS08-alt-load-flash-program" />

<note>Untested</note>

</device>

sunrme @ pgo on Dec 17, 2014 6:28 PM

Hi pgo,

I updated firmware to Ver 4.10.6 and USBDM to 4.10.6.230. I added your configuration, but changed ssid from 0x0000 to 0x00C2, because after click detect chip, chip is not determined by the USBDM FLASH PROGRAMMER. And get the same issue, logs attached.

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pgo @ sunrme on Dec 17, 2014 11:00 PM

Hi Sumne,

I mistyped - Could you change the RAM "size" to "end" as in you example.

<memoryRange start="0x000090" end="0x28F" />

bye

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sunrme @ pgo on Dec 21, 2014 9:30 PM

Hi pgo,

I changed "size" to "end" and got this:

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pgo @ sunrme on Dec 21, 2014 11:22 PM

Hi Sunme,

The log file indicates that you are trying to program the region [0x00DFFC..0x00E00A] (at least) which is not inside the area of Flash that is meant to be usually modified which is limited to

[0xC000..0xDFFF].

Where is you image file coming from? Does it contain the FXTH87xx on-chip routines as well as the new firmware you want to load?

If you wish to re-program the ENTIRE chip including overwritting the on-chip routine then the memory map would need to be modified.

If you can post the .sx file I can inspect it if you want.

PS. The above is based on my very limited understanding of the FXTH chip.

bye

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Log file:





1.00:                          
FlashProgrammer::doFlashBlock(): Exit ================



-0.00:                          
FlashProgrammer::doFlashBlock(): Entry ===============



-0.00:                          
FlashProgrammer::doFlashBlock(): op=OpBlankCheck, [0x00DFFC..0x00E00A]



-0.00:                          
FlashProgrammer::doFlashBlock(): Checking RAM[0x000090..0x00028F]...



-0.00:                          
FlashProgrammer::doFlashBlock():   ...Not in this region



-0.00:                          
FlashProgrammer::doFlashBlock(): Checking FLASH[0x00C000..0x00DFFB]...



-0.00:                          
FlashProgrammer::doFlashBlock():   ...Not in this region



-0.00:                          
FlashProgrammer::doFlashBlock(): Block -|-[0x00DFFC...] is not within target memory.

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sunrme @ pgo on Dec 21, 2014 11:35 PM

Hi pgo,

I created an empty project, built it and try to flash. I don't have *.sx file, codeWarrior generated *.s19 file (attached).

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fxth87_empty.abs.s19.zip390 bytes

pgo @ sunrme on Dec 22, 2014 6:26 PM

Hi Sunrme,

Could you change the end address in the XML file to 0xDFFF as it appears that there is a pseudo-vector table to be programmed as well. Also remove the references to security - in other words use the following:

<device family="HCS08" name="FXTH87xx11-Partial-Erase">

     <memory type="ram">

        <memoryRange start="0x000090" end="0x28F" />

     </memory>

        <memory registerAddress="0x1820" type="flash">

           <memoryRange start="0x00C000" end="0xDFFF" />

     </memory>

     <sdid value="0x002C" />

     <flashProgramRef ref="HCS08-alt-load-flash-program" />

     <note>Untested</note>

</device>

Make sure you select EraseSelective when programming.

bye

sunrme @ pgo on Dec 22, 2014 6:58 PM

Hi pgo,

Thank you for your help, USBDM flashed FXTH87 finally. I changed hcs08_devices.xml, but don't change EraseMass to EraseSelective, because when selected EraseSelective, I got fail (I added logs).

And it relly be cool if I can to debug in codeWarrior this chip. And when I try to do this I got issue:

Error launching fxth87_empty FLASH

Bad arguments passed to function

If you will help me with this, I will be grateful. But I don't know where get logs, only what generated CW (attached)

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logs v6.zip215.7 KB
201412231031_DiagnosticInfo.zip97.9 KB

pgo @ sunrme on Dec 22, 2014 8:51 PM

Hi Sunrme,

I have ordered a chip and if (big IF) I can mount it properly I will experiment with programming it.

It should be possible to debug as well with a bit of work - It may be necessary to add and image for the internal flash routines.

I will look at this in a while

bye

pgo @ pgo on Dec 23, 2014 11:33 PM

Follow-up

OK my sample arrived and with access to this I am able to do a proper job.

The first thing I did was create an image of the chip contents. This allows the chip to be returned to a "factory fresh" state if the firmware is accidentally erased.

Any way I have attached the following:

Image from a FXTH870511, FXTH870511_Image.sx I hope this is OK. If not Freescale can feel free to delete with accompanying rude words. I presume they won't object since the image is unprotected in the device and easily read.
Updated device file hcs08_devices.xml This adds three devices FXTH870000, FXTH87xx11-Full-Erase and FXTH87xx11
- FXTH870000 This is an alias for use with Codewarrior and doesn't appear in the stand-alone programmer.
- FXTH87xx11-Full-Erase This is a device entry that allows completely unprotected programming of the device. This can be used to re-program the device with the above image using mass-erase.
- FXTH87xx11 This is an entry that only allows programming the intended user area of the Flash. Due to limitations in the USBDM programmer it is not possible to prevent you from mass-erasing the device - You have to manually select selective erase.

Further tips:

To restore an accidentally erase device

Load the above image FXTH870511_Image.sx
Select Image for security
Select EraseMass
Program and verify to check it's OK

To program a user program (restricted to user flash area)

Load the above image file .....
Select Image for security
Select EraseSelective
Program and verify to check it's OK

To use with Codewarrior

Create project in usual way with a USBDM target interface.
Modify the USBDM options as shown below
- Security field from flash image (there won't be one)
- Selective erase (by sector)
You should be able to debug in the usual fashion

PS. Want to see the prototype? I can't really see it lasting long inside a tyre!

bye

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FXTH870511_Image.sx.zip7.2 KB
hcs08_devices.xml92.4 KB

George Peterson @ pgo on Dec 23, 2014 1:50 PM
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Good stuff Pgo; I hope that will get Sunrme sorted.

Btw nice sample; looks like you need to clean the solder flux with isopropyl alcohol though. Sometimes leftover flux can get to a state where it shorts pins.
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- pgo @ George Peterson on Dec 23, 2014 11:35 PM
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  Hi George,
  
  Yes it was a recycled board and was the victim of using solder-wick to remove move the connector.
  I've changed the picture to post cleaning - still not a work of art but it's been a long time since I did aerial wiring.
  
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sunrme @ pgo on Dec 23, 2014 4:57 PM

Hi pgo,

Actually I don't know how to thank you. Everything works greate, devices alive, debug works correctly, so really big THANK YOU!

pgo @ sunrme on Dec 23, 2014 11:37 PM

You're welcome sunrme,

Thanks for letting me know it works.

bye

razvan morariu @ pgo on Feb 16, 2015 11:04 AM

Hi,

Do you by any chance have a working code for this chip? I am trying to use the example code provided by freescale but when I run it in debug mode it suddenly jumps into weird parts of memory and I get an error like this.

thank you,

Razvan

George Peterson @ razvan morariu on Feb 16, 2015 5:17 PM

Razvan,

If the starter code from Freescale does not work for you, my guess is that you have a problem in your setup. I've been using the starter code for a couple of months now, on both FXTH87xxx11 and FXTH87xxx02 devices and it works great.

Recheck your hardware. Make sure you have external pullups on both the BKGD and RST pins.

Do you have the FXTH87 update package installed?

razvan morariu @ George Peterson on Feb 17, 2015 3:58 AM
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Hi George,

Yes, I am running on the CW10.6 version and did all the necessary updates. so I get the FXTH870000.xml already set up.
I am able to flash it and also the debug runs smoothly up to this point:
I am not very good with code but from what I understand it tries to jump to a subroutine at this address (0xE003). Checking the data sheet for the memory map that is the firmware jump table which looks empty or not accessible:
Could it be that the firmware was not properly flashed or a step in the programming that I am missing?

I have just flashed the existing .s19 file from the starter project and ran the debug with this configuration:
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- George Peterson @ razvan morariu on Feb 17, 2015 7:37 AM
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  It looks like you corrupted the firmware jump tables in your flash; these, along with user vectors, are stored in unprotected areas. When you do flash programming I suggest restricting write access so that these areas are not overwritten.
  
  You can restore user vectors and firmware jump tables... if you know how to do it. If not, try programming a new chip.
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  - razvan morariu @ George Peterson on Feb 17, 2015 12:31 PM
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    This is pretty much all I am able to set up before flashing the device.
    What settings should I be using not to interfere with the existing firmware?
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Yaping Wang @ George Peterson on Apr 15, 2015 7:20 PM

I　also want to work on the FXTH87, so I want to get a EVB for reference. You build the hardware circuit yourself or get it from Freescale? Look forward to your reply!

Thanks.

Jiangbo Li @ Yaping Wang on Apr 21, 2015 1:37 AM

Hi Yaping Wang,

I design the PCB of FXTH87 by myself,and it works normally.But I think the RF antenna is not perfect.

By the way,Are you Chinese?

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Yaping Wang @ Jiangbo Li on Apr 21, 2015 8:38 PM

Yes,I am Chinese student from Suzhou. I am designing the PCB these days. But ,with less experience ,very hard to do it,too much things unkown. May I contact with you in the following days?

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Hi Yaping Wang,

I design the PCB of FXTH87 by myself,and it works normally.But I think the RF antenna is not perfect.

By the way,Are you Chinese?

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Yaping Wang @ Jiangbo Li on May 6, 2015 1:33 AM
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Hi,jiangbo,

May I contact with you and counseling some problems.
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- Jiangbo Li @ Yaping Wang on May 7, 2015 2:21 AM
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  Hi Yaping,
  Please leave your qq number,I will contact you.
  I have sent you an email(20134228017@stu.suda.edu.cn),but you didn't reply me all the time.
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  - Yaping Wang @ Jiangbo Li on Jun 2, 2015 7:18 AM
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    my qq number is 929077591
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Jiangbo Li @ pgo on Apr 8, 2015 4:39 AM
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Hi pgo,

Your answers are very helpful,But I still have some questions:
When I program my FXTH87,I Select the EraseMass by mistake,so I refer to your method that To restore an accidentally erase device.Now I want to know where did you get the image FXTH870511_Image.sx.
I need the FXTH870911_Image.sx because I am using the FXTH870911DT1.I can't find it on the www.freescale.com,so i can't return to a "factory fresh" state(FXTH870911DT1).
Where can i get the FXTH870911_Image.sx?

Looking forward to your reply.
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- pgo @ Jiangbo Li on Apr 10, 2015 12:50 AM
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  Hi Jiangbo,
  
  I'm sorry I can't help with the image you need. I obtained the FXTH870511 image by reading it from the chip before I tried programming .
  
  bye
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  - Jiangbo Li @ pgo on Apr 10, 2015 1:28 AM
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    Hi pgo,
    
    Thank you anyway!
    I think I can only replace the bad chip with a new one.
    I still want to know why don't freescale provide the image or method? Many users else have made the same mistake.
    
    Best regards!
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- sakthivel kulandaivel @ Jiangbo Li on Aug 20, 2015 1:20 PM
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  Hi All together,
  
  i'm also facing same kind of issue, with Debugger Mode .Firstly i'm working with FXTH870911 434Mhz TPMS Sensor.I have facing the problems like I not able to debug the Sample Code and no sample code executing int he EVB.
  
  #1.I have downloaded Startup Code from free scale there i faced issue with Firmware JUMP Location (0XE003). This i have got clear SW not able to access the address location.
  #2. Then i have downloaded the Sample code "FXTH87XXXX PERIODIC RF TRANSMISSION CW10" and flashed with EVB, I have selected FLASH_434_2_AXIS Vehicle Type .s19 file. Please note very first time FR DATA have been transmitted i have used Spectrum Analyzer to test the FR Signals. Then i have modified the transmitted Data size and flashed this time code not working no RF Data Transmission, then i have revert back to original code and flashed this time also no RF Data Transmission.
  #3. Next i tried to debug the flashed code i got Debugger connection loss error as well the Firmware Jump location error when i suspend the Debugging Progress.From this time onward no longer working with any of the sample code.
  #4. If i try to reset the Target this will jump to the Firmware address 0xFFFF address instead to the vector address.
  #5 . I hope i have accidentally erased the builtin Firmware data,but i don't have any idea how to restore my IC to normal working conditions.Please any can help me for the steps to resolve this issues.
  #6. I have using CW10.6 with TPMS supported component installed. Please node this are the thing im using for my development (FXTH870911 and P&E Micro Cyclone Pro) Debugger.
  
  Please this will be very great-full if any one help me out.
  
  Thanks
  Sakthivel K
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Xia Alina @ pgo on Dec 11, 2015 2:01 AM
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Hi, pgo ,
I read all your solution about USBDM failing to program FXTH87XX11，
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Xia Alina @ pgo on Dec 11, 2015 2:13 AM

Hi, pgo ,

I read all your solution about USBDM failing to program FXTH87XX11，I want to know how can i get the information about FXTH870000, FXTH87xx11-Full-Erase, FXTH87xx11 .

I only have the data about FXTH87xx11 ,as follows

	<device family="HCS08" name="FXTH87xx11-Partial-Erase">
	<memory type="ram">
	<memoryRange start="0x000090" end="0x28F" />
	</memory>
	<memory registerAddress="0x1820" type="flash">
	<memoryRange start="0x00C000" end="0xDFFF" />
	</memory>
	<sdid value="0x002C" />
	<flashProgramRef ref="HCS08-alt-load-flash-program" />
	<note>Untested</note>
	</device>

now I can not debug with usbdm，also I can not program my device with USBDM.

when I program my project, I got this. please can you help me? I will be very grateful. thank you.

pgo @ Xia Alina on Dec 11, 2015 3:33 PM
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Hi Xia,

Could you post your request to an entirely NEW thread - this one is a mess and it is very hard to follow (at least I find it so).

Please provide the following:
- The exact part number of the device you are using
- A link to the reference manual for that chip
- Re-post the above information for completness
Thank you
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- Xia Alina @ pgo on Dec 14, 2015 12:40 AM
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  hi
  pgo,I have build a new request, click this :
  https://community.freescale.com/message/596675#596675
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- Xia Alina @ pgo on Dec 15, 2015 12:31 AM
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  hi, pgo
  I have build a new request, click this :
  https://community.freescale.com/message/596675#596675
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Yaping Wang @ pgo on Jun 16, 2015 8:00 AM
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Hi,pgo,

I　can download the , but for another s19 file,it shows
But another person can download it .How does it happen?
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- pgo @ Yaping Wang on Jun 18, 2015 11:19 PM
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  Hi Yaping,
  
  Can you provide the image file and I will see if there is some obvious reason?
  
  bye
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  - Yaping Wang @ pgo on Jul 6, 2015 6:34 PM
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    I have solved it. Simply because of the low charge.
    
    Thank you all the time!
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George Peterson Dec 22, 2014 6:36 PM
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There appears to be some factory code in Flash that is needed, but unprotected.

I tried to reprogram my FXTH87 but before doing so I erased all of the user flash thinking this was safe. This effectively "bricked" the FXTH87 and made the TPMS functions unuseable. The problem seems to be that the erasing deleted NVOPT.

So I agree with only doing selective erase.
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- sunrme @ George Peterson on Dec 22, 2014 7:07 PM
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  Hi George,
  
  I am so surprised about this unprotected code in Flash memory. So I think that, I already "bricked" my only two samples . So I can't to reprogram this memory range?
  
  Are you using USBDM for flash and debug? Could you show settings that you using for this in the hcs08_devices.xml or may be some additional changes and settings. It will be really helpful.
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George Peterson Dec 22, 2014 7:50 PM
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That was my experience; after I erased all flash, the FXTH87 could no longer use the firmware functions and I could not re-program it. If this is indeed the issue, I believe there is a way to restore the flash back to factory settings but I don't know how to do that.

I'm using the P&E debugger. The settings I'm using are straight from the Codewarrior help file (CW v10.6). I searched the help file for "flash programmer" and clicked on the top search result which walked me through the whole process.
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pgo Feb 25, 2015 11:31 PM
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Hi Razvan,

I don't actually use a multi-link so the following may be incorrect:
Open the launch configuration and select Edit under target connection:

Select Advanced Programming Options:

You can then protect ranges:

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- sushil nikam @ pgo on Aug 12, 2015 1:54 AM
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  Hi pgo,
  Im working on FXTH870502DT1, Im facing the same problem stated by all. I think internal flash of my chip got erased while programming. Will you please tell me the method of getting/reading flash from another chip. Im using universal multilink. Please tell me how to get image of chip firmware as Im having few another chips.
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pgo Aug 14, 2015 5:04 AM
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Hi Sushil,

I'm sorry but I haven't used a multi-link for quite a while - I'm unsure if there is a method for dumping the memory contents.
You might want to post on the 8-bit Microcontrollers group.

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- Gerardo Garza @ pgo on Feb 4, 2016 1:41 AM
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  Hi pgo, I want to learn about TPMS, but I dont understand how it is programmed or what device should I use to do it. Can you guide me a little with this?
  Thanks for your attention.
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Sumir Jha Apr 3, 2017 5:05 AM
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Hello,

I had another issue regarding programming of FXth8705D, The problem was that everytime I try to detect or Program the ic, It always throws some error like this,

Now, After Scratching my head all day started reading datasheet more carefully, and Then I came to this section of the datasheet.

In very first bullet it says, In order to enter into BDM, BKGD should hold down while powering up the FXTH87xx. and My Programmer doesn't have the software control over powering up the target.

What was I doing Wrong?
I inserted all four connector RST, GND, VCC, BKGD, simultaneously which somehow doesn't let FXTH87xx entering into BD mode. What I did was, I connected RST, GND, BKGD first then after that VCC. Which Ensured the First point in the bullet, in above image. and Voila.............I Succeed.

Hope It will help someone, and might save his day.

Thanks and Regards
Sumir Kumar Jha, India
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