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    <title>topic How to cascade BGA MMIC amps? in Wireless MCU</title>
    <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/Wireless-MCU/How-to-cascade-BGA-MMIC-amps/m-p/656208#M2582</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I need help with BGA2869 MMIC amps.&amp;nbsp; I'm trying to cascade two amps for a 7 Mhz HF application to get more gain and running into a brick wall. Each amp works great on its own.&amp;nbsp; Tested with input of -107dbm, -73 dbm and -33 dbm from a 50R source. I get at least 28dB gain for each amp connected to 5V supply.&amp;nbsp; Each amp input/output is decoupled using 100nf caps.&amp;nbsp; The current draw to each amp is around 30mA.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I've created a PCB following power supply, ground plane and decoupling recommendations.&amp;nbsp; However, when I interconnect amps together (using&amp;nbsp; 100nf coupling capacitor and a straight trace between input and output of respective amps) I run into problems.&amp;nbsp; On this PCB if I remove and bypass one amp and test the other I get the results noted above.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;First I don't get the expected gain (i.e. 28db + 28 db). I measure less than 20db of gain for both amps.&amp;nbsp; Second, the current draw for the second amp drops to almost half of the spec (about 15mA) and the first amp is consuming about 30 mA.&amp;nbsp; Third, the noise floor comes up substantially more that for one single amp.&amp;nbsp; Would expect this if both amps were operating but based on current draw the second amp does not seem to be working well.&amp;nbsp; Again this ONLY happens when the amps are connected together.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have a 7805 regulator that is rated at 1 amp of current and i have various caps (100uf, 1uf, and .1uf) to control power supply noise from 7805 and power supply.&amp;nbsp; Also have a 470pf cap 7.4 mm from Vcc pin as recommended on data sheet.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is there anything special that is needed to cascade these amps?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;First time using MMIC amps and I'm lost.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Any help would be greatly appreciated.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2017 19:57:55 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>daverajnauth</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2017-04-06T19:57:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>How to cascade BGA MMIC amps?</title>
      <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/Wireless-MCU/How-to-cascade-BGA-MMIC-amps/m-p/656208#M2582</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I need help with BGA2869 MMIC amps.&amp;nbsp; I'm trying to cascade two amps for a 7 Mhz HF application to get more gain and running into a brick wall. Each amp works great on its own.&amp;nbsp; Tested with input of -107dbm, -73 dbm and -33 dbm from a 50R source. I get at least 28dB gain for each amp connected to 5V supply.&amp;nbsp; Each amp input/output is decoupled using 100nf caps.&amp;nbsp; The current draw to each amp is around 30mA.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I've created a PCB following power supply, ground plane and decoupling recommendations.&amp;nbsp; However, when I interconnect amps together (using&amp;nbsp; 100nf coupling capacitor and a straight trace between input and output of respective amps) I run into problems.&amp;nbsp; On this PCB if I remove and bypass one amp and test the other I get the results noted above.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;First I don't get the expected gain (i.e. 28db + 28 db). I measure less than 20db of gain for both amps.&amp;nbsp; Second, the current draw for the second amp drops to almost half of the spec (about 15mA) and the first amp is consuming about 30 mA.&amp;nbsp; Third, the noise floor comes up substantially more that for one single amp.&amp;nbsp; Would expect this if both amps were operating but based on current draw the second amp does not seem to be working well.&amp;nbsp; Again this ONLY happens when the amps are connected together.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have a 7805 regulator that is rated at 1 amp of current and i have various caps (100uf, 1uf, and .1uf) to control power supply noise from 7805 and power supply.&amp;nbsp; Also have a 470pf cap 7.4 mm from Vcc pin as recommended on data sheet.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is there anything special that is needed to cascade these amps?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;First time using MMIC amps and I'm lost.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Any help would be greatly appreciated.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2017 19:57:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.nxp.com/t5/Wireless-MCU/How-to-cascade-BGA-MMIC-amps/m-p/656208#M2582</guid>
      <dc:creator>daverajnauth</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-06T19:57:55Z</dc:date>
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