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    <title>topic Re: QN9080-001-M17(SIP) Antenna design for no ground plane in Wireless MCU</title>
    <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/Wireless-MCU/QN9080-001-M17-SIP-Antenna-design-for-no-ground-plane/m-p/1369733#M12389</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;HI Oh&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;can you share the your test result that test done on both of boards?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;in fact, we don't recommend that layout the&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;no ground plane on the PCB, you know a&amp;nbsp;complete GND is important to&amp;nbsp;ensure RF performance and power performance,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Anyway, what mode of antenna in your application? I guessing that internal antenna is used, right? if so please see my suggestion in below,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1. increase the line&amp;nbsp;wide for those GND trace connection,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. layout a few of gnd shape on RF GND(48,49,50) pin and connect it as following,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="ryan_xu_0-1636614980754.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.nxp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/161911iC3EA7370AFDC3DA1/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="ryan_xu_0-1636614980754.png" alt="ryan_xu_0-1636614980754.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Best regards&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Ryan&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2021 07:18:00 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>ryan_xu</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-11-11T07:18:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>QN9080-001-M17(SIP) Antenna design for no ground plane</title>
      <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/Wireless-MCU/QN9080-001-M17-SIP-Antenna-design-for-no-ground-plane/m-p/1368128#M12367</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am trying to make a very small BLE device using a QN9080 SIP. Since there should be no ground plane on the PCB because i am designing in a special situation, i connected all ground pins of the circuit with traces.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The datasheet has guidelines only if a ground plane is present. If there is no ground plane like mine, how do I connect the antenna function pins (Pin 48, 49, 50) and do I need an additional antenna trace or small ground plane or chip antenna?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I tested both with and without a ground plane, and there was a difference in RF performance, and the performance decreased when there was no ground plane.&lt;BR /&gt;(Please check the attached photos of both test layouts.)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I would appreciate it if you could provide a guideline for maintaining the same high RF performance even in the absence of a ground plane.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Best regards.&lt;BR /&gt;Oh.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2021 02:28:24 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>tpgurtpgur2</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-11-09T02:28:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: QN9080-001-M17(SIP) Antenna design for no ground plane</title>
      <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/Wireless-MCU/QN9080-001-M17-SIP-Antenna-design-for-no-ground-plane/m-p/1369733#M12389</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;HI Oh&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;can you share the your test result that test done on both of boards?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;in fact, we don't recommend that layout the&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;no ground plane on the PCB, you know a&amp;nbsp;complete GND is important to&amp;nbsp;ensure RF performance and power performance,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Anyway, what mode of antenna in your application? I guessing that internal antenna is used, right? if so please see my suggestion in below,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1. increase the line&amp;nbsp;wide for those GND trace connection,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. layout a few of gnd shape on RF GND(48,49,50) pin and connect it as following,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="ryan_xu_0-1636614980754.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.nxp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/161911iC3EA7370AFDC3DA1/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="ryan_xu_0-1636614980754.png" alt="ryan_xu_0-1636614980754.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Best regards&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Ryan&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2021 07:18:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.nxp.com/t5/Wireless-MCU/QN9080-001-M17-SIP-Antenna-design-for-no-ground-plane/m-p/1369733#M12389</guid>
      <dc:creator>ryan_xu</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-11-11T07:18:00Z</dc:date>
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