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    <title>Sensorsのトピックmm9z1_638_Vsense 3 Ripple voltage issue</title>
    <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/Sensors/mm9z1-638-Vsense-3-Ripple-voltage-issue/m-p/1573680#M7199</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi NXP Partner.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We follow the Vsense 3 circuit of RD9Z1-638BJBEVM. We measured the ripple voltage of C72 is about 1.7V.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Could we increase capacitance to 1uf ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We have increased the capacitance.The ripple voltage becomes small.&lt;BR /&gt;Why is vsense 3 sink current huge to make the ripple voltage become big? It is normla behavior?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="a852013777_0-1671706070474.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.nxp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/205245i05A7F949047948EA/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="a852013777_0-1671706070474.png" alt="a852013777_0-1671706070474.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Br,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Mike Liang&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2022 10:49:04 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>a852013777</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2022-12-22T10:49:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>mm9z1_638_Vsense 3 Ripple voltage issue</title>
      <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/Sensors/mm9z1-638-Vsense-3-Ripple-voltage-issue/m-p/1573680#M7199</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi NXP Partner.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We follow the Vsense 3 circuit of RD9Z1-638BJBEVM. We measured the ripple voltage of C72 is about 1.7V.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Could we increase capacitance to 1uf ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We have increased the capacitance.The ripple voltage becomes small.&lt;BR /&gt;Why is vsense 3 sink current huge to make the ripple voltage become big? It is normla behavior?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="a852013777_0-1671706070474.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.nxp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/205245i05A7F949047948EA/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="a852013777_0-1671706070474.png" alt="a852013777_0-1671706070474.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Br,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Mike Liang&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2022 10:49:04 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>a852013777</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-12-22T10:49:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: mm9z1_638_Vsense 3 Ripple voltage issue</title>
      <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/Sensors/mm9z1-638-Vsense-3-Ripple-voltage-issue/m-p/1574674#M7205</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Mike,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Please see below the answer I received today from our BMS AE:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;From my understanding of customer&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;’s question, there is the voltage jump on Vsense3 pin.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;First of all, from our LAB test result, the Vsense3 have no abnormal jump issue from my side. So I think this is a customer system noise issue.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;From the schematic, the current leakage have two entrances to impact on Vsense3. One is Negative test point, another is&amp;nbsp; VBAT+, we need to tell which one is the entrance, some suggestion as following.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;1. Remove the D17 and disconnect the OPT-MOS,&amp;nbsp; we can disconnect Vsense3 with GND by following these two actions. Then Vsense3 should equal to VBAT+. If the voltage jump issue still exist we can get conclusion the noise entrance comes from VBAT, if issue disappear we can get conclusion the noise entrance&amp;nbsp; comes from VBAT+&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;2.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;If the noise comes from VBAT+(I suppose it is less likely since there is DCDC in VBAT), I think we can find out what is this noise comes from, maybe we can also increase the capacitor between VBAT VS GND.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;3.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;If the noise comes from Negative test point, I suppose this noise may be comes from the Load. Customer can find what happened on the load.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Pic.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.nxp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/205478iE1A0032E2C4ACA85/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Pic.png" alt="Pic.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Another question is the Vsense3 capacitance change from 22nF to 1uF,&amp;nbsp; this change is good for voltage stability but not good for quick sensing since&amp;nbsp;τ is increase. We need to balance the stability and reaction rate. Sorry I didn’t test with 1uF before, but I suppose the capacitor value a little bit higher.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Best regards,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Tomas&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2022 18:57:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.nxp.com/t5/Sensors/mm9z1-638-Vsense-3-Ripple-voltage-issue/m-p/1574674#M7205</guid>
      <dc:creator>TomasVaverka</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-12-26T18:57:20Z</dc:date>
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