topic P1010RDB-PB USB Clock source in P-Series

P1010RDB-PB USB Clock source

davef — Tue, 10 Feb 2015 16:32:32 GMT

The P1010RDB-PB eval platform has an available USB clock source generated by the IDT ClockGen (U13).

Was there a compelling reason to add a separate external oscillator (Y2) to generate the USB PHY clock?

Thanks...

Re: P1010RDB-PB USB Clock source

Pavel — Wed, 11 Feb 2015 10:58:51 GMT

The Section 2.12.3 of the P1010 Datasheet Rev 4 contains USB PHY clock requirements. The better solution for these requirements is a separate external oscillator (Y2) to generate the USB PHY clock.

Re: P1010RDB-PB USB Clock source

davef — Wed, 11 Feb 2015 13:15:46 GMT

I am asking why the IDT ClockGen (U13) USB clock was not used. It is available and meets the specification.

Why is a dedicated oscillator a better solution? Is there an undisclosed issue with the IDT part?

Re: P1010RDB-PB USB Clock source

Pavel — Thu, 12 Feb 2015 04:31:18 GMT

The P1010 USB requires 24 MHz clock source and jitter below 5ps. The 6V49205BNLGI does not provides similar jitter for 24MHz clock generation. The 6V49205BNLGI 24MHz jitter is 350ps. See the The 6V49205BNLGI Datasheet (http://www.idt.com/document/dst/6v49205b-datasheet).

Re: P1010RDB-PB USB Clock source

davef — Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:05:55 GMT

Thanks, Pavel.

Would it not be the RMS jitter of 120ps max that is the culprit. I'm considering a part with 5ps RMS jitter and 50ps pk-pk jitter. The P1010 datasheet doesn't specify a peak to peak jitter requirement.

http://www.ctscorp.com/components/Datasheets/008-0256-0.pdf

Re: P1010RDB-PB USB Clock source

Pavel — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:14:08 GMT

The USB 2.0 Specification requires BER<= 10E-12. It corresponds the peak to peak jitter about 70 ps.