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    <title>topic Re: AFT05MS031 for wide band application 30-512MHz in NXP Designs</title>
    <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/NXP-Designs/AFT05MS031-for-wide-band-application-30-512MHz/m-p/999797#M227</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;NXP offers a portfolio for RF Mobile Radio. These devices are optimized to provide full performance at 7.5-13.6V supply.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.nxp.com/products/rf/rf-power/rf-mobile-radio:RF-MOBILE-RADIO#/" target="test_blank"&gt;https://www.nxp.com/products/rf/rf-power/rf-mobile-radio:RF-MOBILE-RADIO#/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Have in mind that optimal load impedance is Rload = (VDD-V_sat)^2/(2*P_load). So, if you need to achieve high power at low supply voltage, the optimal load impedance must be low. For example, 30W @ 12.5V,V_sat=0.1*VDD -&amp;gt; Rload = 2.1 Ohm. In the case of 50V device, optimal load will be 16 times more!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So, RF mobile devices (==low VDD) would have low load impedance and thus they could be difficult to build broadband (more than octave) amplifier.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What is your application? Typical mobile radio uses narrow bands to communicate. Common approach is to implement amplifier with a set of band tuned impedance matching and filter circuits.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Have a great day,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Pavel&lt;BR /&gt;TIC&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;BR /&gt;Note:&lt;BR /&gt;- If this post answers your question, please click the "Mark Correct" button. Thank you!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- We are following threads for 7 weeks after the last post, later replies are ignored&lt;BR /&gt;Please open a new thread and refer to the closed one, if you have a related question at a later point in time.&lt;BR /&gt;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jan 2020 09:25:36 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>LPP</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-01-20T09:25:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>AFT05MS031 for wide band application 30-512MHz</title>
      <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/NXP-Designs/AFT05MS031-for-wide-band-application-30-512MHz/m-p/999794#M224</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I would like to used this device in 30-512MHz Broad band application. I look our for reference design.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Not able to install Microwave office and ADS models forwideband application simulation. ATF05003 3W device is used as driver.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 Jan 2020 07:13:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.nxp.com/t5/NXP-Designs/AFT05MS031-for-wide-band-application-30-512MHz/m-p/999794#M224</guid>
      <dc:creator>gs_sureshkumar</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-11T07:13:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: AFT05MS031 for wide band application 30-512MHz</title>
      <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/NXP-Designs/AFT05MS031-for-wide-band-application-30-512MHz/m-p/999795#M225</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;gt;Not able to install Microwave office and ADS models for wideband application simulation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Try to solve this problem. Using ADS/AWR simulation is the most reliable way to design RF amplifier.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;gt;I would like to used this device in 30-512MHz Broad band application.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;Unfortunately, we have no a ready for use design for your application.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This device has low input and output impedances (typical 1.5 Ohm source and 3 Ohm output) and it will require broadband matching circuits to cover the target frequency band. NXP broadband reference designs for AFT05MS031 provide 3 LC stages to achieve 20% bandwidth.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;LC impedance matching will require more stages to implement 30-512MHz bandwidth. This approach is not reasonable if more than octave bandwidth is required. General solution is to use broadband transmission line transformers. AFT05MS031 will need impedance 16:1 transformation at input and output.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Useful links, amplifies with TL impedance matching:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.polyfet.com/HFE0503_Leong.pdf" target="test_blank"&gt;http://www.polyfet.com/HFE0503_Leong.pdf&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.ampleon.com/documents/application-note/AN10858.pdf" target="test_blank"&gt;https://www.ampleon.com/documents/application-note/AN10858.pdf&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Note. AFT05MS031 design for 30-512MHz is difficult to implement because of it's low source/load impedances. It would be much easier to implement broadband amplifier using a device that has higher source/load impedances (closer to 50 Ohm).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It is possible if using 50V or 65V supply devices. For example, MRFE6VS25N, MRFX035 or MRFE6VP100H.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Have a great day,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Pavel&lt;BR /&gt;TIC&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;BR /&gt;Note:&lt;BR /&gt;- If this post answers your question, please click the "Mark Correct" button. Thank you!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- We are following threads for 7 weeks after the last post, later replies are ignored&lt;BR /&gt;Please open a new thread and refer to the closed one, if you have a related question at a later point in time.&lt;BR /&gt;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 11:32:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.nxp.com/t5/NXP-Designs/AFT05MS031-for-wide-band-application-30-512MHz/m-p/999795#M225</guid>
      <dc:creator>LPP</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-17T11:32:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: AFT05MS031 for wide band application 30-512MHz</title>
      <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/NXP-Designs/AFT05MS031-for-wide-band-application-30-512MHz/m-p/999796#M226</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;I agree low source&amp;nbsp; and load&amp;nbsp; impedance,&amp;nbsp; it is difficult to design in my restricted size.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;It is not possible to use high voltage devices as the system is battery operated.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Is there any other devices would like to recommend with 12V supply&amp;nbsp; for this application.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Let me check in detail on the application notes shared and workout a solution.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 12:25:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.nxp.com/t5/NXP-Designs/AFT05MS031-for-wide-band-application-30-512MHz/m-p/999796#M226</guid>
      <dc:creator>gs_sureshkumar</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-17T12:25:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: AFT05MS031 for wide band application 30-512MHz</title>
      <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/NXP-Designs/AFT05MS031-for-wide-band-application-30-512MHz/m-p/999797#M227</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;NXP offers a portfolio for RF Mobile Radio. These devices are optimized to provide full performance at 7.5-13.6V supply.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.nxp.com/products/rf/rf-power/rf-mobile-radio:RF-MOBILE-RADIO#/" target="test_blank"&gt;https://www.nxp.com/products/rf/rf-power/rf-mobile-radio:RF-MOBILE-RADIO#/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Have in mind that optimal load impedance is Rload = (VDD-V_sat)^2/(2*P_load). So, if you need to achieve high power at low supply voltage, the optimal load impedance must be low. For example, 30W @ 12.5V,V_sat=0.1*VDD -&amp;gt; Rload = 2.1 Ohm. In the case of 50V device, optimal load will be 16 times more!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So, RF mobile devices (==low VDD) would have low load impedance and thus they could be difficult to build broadband (more than octave) amplifier.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What is your application? Typical mobile radio uses narrow bands to communicate. Common approach is to implement amplifier with a set of band tuned impedance matching and filter circuits.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Have a great day,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Pavel&lt;BR /&gt;TIC&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;BR /&gt;Note:&lt;BR /&gt;- If this post answers your question, please click the "Mark Correct" button. Thank you!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- We are following threads for 7 weeks after the last post, later replies are ignored&lt;BR /&gt;Please open a new thread and refer to the closed one, if you have a related question at a later point in time.&lt;BR /&gt;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jan 2020 09:25:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.nxp.com/t5/NXP-Designs/AFT05MS031-for-wide-band-application-30-512MHz/m-p/999797#M227</guid>
      <dc:creator>LPP</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-20T09:25:36Z</dc:date>
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