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    <title>topic Re: PN532 Antenna Design question in NFC</title>
    <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/NFC/PN532-Antenna-Design-question/m-p/507772#M292</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hello &lt;A class="jx-jive-macro-user" href="https://community.nxp.com/people/shayohayon"&gt;shayohayon&lt;/A&gt;,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I will order mini Vna tiny to tune my Antenna, as you mentioned you used it in your design.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is it working without problems? because NXP recommends to use only mini VNA PRO.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2018 08:17:52 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>salmabay</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-03-07T08:17:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>PN532 Antenna Design question</title>
      <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/NFC/PN532-Antenna-Design-question/m-p/507768#M288</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Dear NFC community members,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am working on designing a small RFID reader circuit that is based on the PN532 chip and I would like to get some feedback. My background isn't RF engineering, so I am not sure about many things. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'll summarize the main questions first, and then describe in details what I've done:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am using miniVNA Tiny for taking measurements.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Q1: which parameter (SWR, RP, RL) should I look at for figuring out the self resonance of a circuit?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Sometimes the sign flip of RP correlates well with the minimum of RL and SWR, but not always.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Q2: Why after tuning my antenna to 13.56 Mhz (based on SWR or RL measurements) do I see a huge shift in resonance frequency when I bring a tag close to the antenna? Typically, two peaks appear: one at ~12.8Mhz and one at ~14.3Mhz? Is this normal?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Before:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper" image-alt="pastedImage_10.png"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.nxp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/56834i214A61A4C44DE7AC/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="pastedImage_10.png" alt="pastedImage_10.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;After a tag is nearby:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper" image-alt="pastedImage_12.png"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.nxp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/56835i4DD416B88DA4D165/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="pastedImage_12.png" alt="pastedImage_12.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper" image-alt="pastedImage_11.png"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.nxp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/56852iCC47156008777EA7/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="pastedImage_11.png" alt="pastedImage_11.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Full story below (and more questions below):&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I basically followed the reference design and white papers describing how to tune the antenna. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The circuit has the EMC module (560nH, 220pF), series caps (C1) and parallel caps (C2).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;At first, I tried to follow the general guidelines which were:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1. Measure antenna inductance (La)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I did this by measuring the reactance at 1Mhz. La = Xs / w0 = 1.6uH&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This seems reasonable.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2. Measure antenna self resonance.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I looked either at the sign flip of RP or SWR. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I noticed multiple peaks, which one should I consider to be the resonance?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper" image-alt="pastedImage_5.png"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.nxp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/56738i711758148F1B35A7/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="pastedImage_5.png" alt="pastedImage_5.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3. From the self resonance, estimate the antenna capacitance: &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p1"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="s1"&gt;f0=1e6; &lt;/SPAN&gt;% measured at 1 Mhz&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p2"&gt;w0 = 2*pi*f0;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p1"&gt;La = Xs/w0; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p3"&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p1"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="s1"&gt;Fself = 472270937; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p2"&gt;Ca = 1/((2*pi*Fself)^2 * La);&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p3"&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p3"&gt;4. Calculate C1 and C2.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p3"&gt;I followed equations from white paper:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p1"&gt;Ra =7.7; &lt;SPAN class="s1"&gt;% Measured at 1 Mhz&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p1"&gt;Xs = 9.8; % Measured at 1 Mhz&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p1"&gt;nfc_freq = 13.56*1e6;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p2"&gt;w = 2*pi*nfc_freq;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p1"&gt;Qa = w*La/Ra &lt;SPAN class="s1"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p1"&gt;Rmatch = 30;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p1"&gt;Rq = max(0, 0.5 * (w*La / Rmatch - Ra))&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p2"&gt;% in my case, no series resistors were needed. Q was&amp;nbsp; ~17&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p2"&gt;% EMC filter:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p2"&gt;L0 = 560 * 10^-9; &lt;SPAN class="s1"&gt;% 560 nH&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p2"&gt;Femc_cutoff =14338865.060467; &lt;SPAN class="s1"&gt;% 14.4 Mhz&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p2"&gt;C0 =&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; (1/(Femc_cutoff*2*pi)).^2/Lemc; &lt;SPAN class="s1"&gt;% 220 pF&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p2"&gt; % Calculate the series equivalent&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p2"&gt;Xtr = 2*w * ( L0 * (1-w^2*L0*C0) - Rmatch^2/4 * C0) / ((1-w^2*L0*C0)^2 + (w*Rmatch/2*C0)^2);&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p2"&gt;Rtr = Rmatch / ( (1-w^2*L0*C0)^2 + (w*Rmatch/2*C0)^2);&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p3"&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p2"&gt;% Calculate the parallel equivalent circuit:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p2"&gt;Lpa = La;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p2"&gt;Cpa = Ca;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p2"&gt;Rpa = (w*La)^2 / (Ra + 2*Rq);&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p2"&gt;C1 = 1/( w* (sqrt(Rtr*Rpa/4) + Xtr/2));&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p2"&gt;C2 = 1/(w^2 * Lpa/2) - 1/(w * sqrt(Rtr*Rpa/4)) - 2*Cpa;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p4"&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p4"&gt;------&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="p4"&gt;The final result was:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For C1 (26.33), use 4.70 + 22.00 (=26.70), error = 0.370680 pF&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For C2 (149.62), use 0.00 + 150.00 (=150.00), error = 0.380073 pF&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I tried out these values, but the end result was really out of range.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Did I miss something out in my calculations?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I then played around by changing caps (without the EMC bandpass filter).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I noticed two major trends:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1. When I increase C1, I get a narrower profile (smaller arc on Smith Chart)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2. Increasing C2 generally doesn't change the radius of the arc much, but shifts the resonance frequency downward.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I ended up with this:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper" image-alt="pastedImage_8.png"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.nxp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/56767i5A3687C878624683/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="pastedImage_8.png" alt="pastedImage_8.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper" image-alt="pastedImage_10.png"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.nxp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/56834i214A61A4C44DE7AC/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="pastedImage_10.png" alt="pastedImage_10.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Does this look reasonable? If so, why do I get such a huge detuning when a tag is near by?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2016 22:39:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.nxp.com/t5/NFC/PN532-Antenna-Design-question/m-p/507768#M288</guid>
      <dc:creator>shayohayon</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-05-08T22:39:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PN532 Antenna Design question</title>
      <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/NFC/PN532-Antenna-Design-question/m-p/507769#M289</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Bump? Any takers? Has anyone designed a custom antenna and went through this process before?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2016 01:31:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.nxp.com/t5/NFC/PN532-Antenna-Design-question/m-p/507769#M289</guid>
      <dc:creator>shayohayon</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-05-12T01:31:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PN532 Antenna Design question</title>
      <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/NFC/PN532-Antenna-Design-question/m-p/507770#M290</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hello &lt;SPAN class="jive-comment-meta font-color-meta-light"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="j-username-wrap"&gt;&lt;A _jive_internal="true" data-content-finding="Community" data-userid="273045" data-username="shayohayon" href="https://community.nxp.com/people/shayohayon"&gt;Shay&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; I asked for help of NFC expert team on your questions, the following is answers!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt; ----------------------------&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Q1: which parameter (SWR, RP, RL) should I look at for figuring out the self resonance of a circuit?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Sometimes the sign flip of RP correlates well with the minimum of RL and SWR, but not always.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt; [Answer] &lt;EM&gt;We just check Rs value for matching when Xs is close to 0 @13.56MHz.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Q2: Why after tuning my antenna to 13.56 Mhz (based on SWR or RL measurements) do I see a huge shift in resonance frequency when I bring a tag close to the antenna? Typically, two peaks appear: one at ~12.8Mhz and one at ~14.3Mhz? Is this normal?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;[Answer]&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;It is normal when a tag/card or other metal circuit close to the antenna. The coupling effect will detune the original matching.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM style="color: #1f497d; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;More antenna matching guide can be found on the following link:&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM style="color: #1f497d; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;A href="http://cache.nxp.com/documents/application_note/AN11019.pdf?fpsp=1&amp;amp;WT_TYPE=Application%20Notes&amp;amp;WT_VENDOR=FREESCALE&amp;amp;WT_FILE_FORMAT=pdf&amp;amp;WT_ASSET=Documentation&amp;amp;fileExt=.pdf"&gt;http://cache.nxp.com/documents/application_note/AN11019.pdf?fpsp=1&amp;amp;WT_TYPE=Application%20Notes&amp;amp;WT_VENDOR=FREESCALE&amp;amp;WT_FILE_FORMAT=pdf&amp;amp;WT_ASSET=Documentation&amp;amp;fileExt=.pdf&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;------------------------------&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Weidong&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2016 12:25:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.nxp.com/t5/NFC/PN532-Antenna-Design-question/m-p/507770#M290</guid>
      <dc:creator>weidong_sun</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-05-20T12:25:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PN532 Antenna Design question</title>
      <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/NFC/PN532-Antenna-Design-question/m-p/507771#M291</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;OK. I followed the steps laid out in AN1445. That is the most useful document on the issue.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The flow chart for tuning C1 and C2 really helped. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now the antenna is properly tuned and the circuit works!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A critical step is setting the correct resistance on the receiver voltage divider circuit. I fried my first board because the returned voltage exceeded 1V :smileyhappy:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2016 16:30:42 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>shayohayon</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-05-26T16:30:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PN532 Antenna Design question</title>
      <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/NFC/PN532-Antenna-Design-question/m-p/507772#M292</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hello &lt;A class="jx-jive-macro-user" href="https://community.nxp.com/people/shayohayon"&gt;shayohayon&lt;/A&gt;,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I will order mini Vna tiny to tune my Antenna, as you mentioned you used it in your design.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is it working without problems? because NXP recommends to use only mini VNA PRO.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2018 08:17:52 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>salmabay</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-03-07T08:17:52Z</dc:date>
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