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LPC1000 roadmap

lpcware — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 02:29:35 GMT

Content originally posted in LPCWare by NXP_Europe on Tue Apr 13 01:24:19 MST 2010
Hi All,
In the forum there are quite some questions on the LPC1000 roadmap. So an official statement of NXP then.
We are working very hard in extending the LPC1000 roadmap, and you'll see the portfolio growing very rapidly.
A quick overview to expect the coming months / quarters:

Cortex-M0:

[LIST]
[*] LPC1100 with lower power enhancements, so we are low but going even lower!!
[*]LPC1100 with CAN
[*]LPC1100 with USB
[*]And expect much more in the future!!
[/LIST]
Cortex-M3:

[LIST]
[*]LPC1300 with lower power enhancements, as with the LPC1100 we'll decrease the power consumption even more!
[*]LPC1700 with performance enhancements, like e.g. the LPC1769 running at 120MHz!!
[*]LPC1700 with LCD and EMI
[*]And expect much more in the future!!
[/LIST]
Cortex-M4:

[LIST]
[*]We're working very very hard getting the first Cortex-M4 device ready, as you all might know we announced to be the first licensee of this core on Feb 22nd. So bare a bit with us getting it on silicon!!
[*]Very nice products will come in this area!!
[/LIST]
So as you see, we'll come with much more in the Cortex-M family.

We really don't forget you guys, and certainly appreciate all inputs given. So as soon as there are announcements to make, it will be placed in this thread!

Re: LPC1000 roadmap

lpcware — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 02:29:36 GMT

Content originally posted in LPCWare by NXP_Europe on Tue Apr 13 01:35:25 MST 2010
Hi All
In the [B]Roadmap/Plan for future Cortex Mx parts?[/B] thread there were some questions on our roadmap.
We hope we can make thinks more transparent for you by using this thread.

Thanks,

Re: LPC1000 roadmap

lpcware — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 02:29:37 GMT

Content originally posted in LPCWare by rkiryanov on Tue Apr 13 01:46:03 MST 2010
It would be nice to see:

1) LPC236x on Cortex-M0 (without Ethernet, SD/MMC, I2S; but with segment LCD driver)
2) LPC247x on Cortex-M3 (with USB OTG, Ethernet MII or built in PHY, matrix LCD driver, EMC with SDRAM DDR support)

Re: LPC1000 roadmap

lpcware — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 02:29:37 GMT

Content originally posted in LPCWare by NXP_Europe on Tue Apr 13 01:59:51 MST 2010
Hi All,
In the thread [B]Features I would Like to See of the LPC11XX[/B] there were some questions and proposals to our LPC1000 family.

Inputs from LarryP

Quote:
Ktownsend, et al,

I think keeping their cards close to their chest is more likely to backfire. When prospective users are kept guessing, they often evaluate other choices. I think it would be a *good* thing if NXP shared more of their plans with their user community, even in general terms, some info would help. For example, I think they could safely reveal whether they plan to:

    Introduce family members with more flash

    Whether they will add USB capability to the LPC1xxx line

    Whether they will add the USB in-ROM support to the LPC17xx line

Just my $0.02

First of all thanks for the inputs and thoughts! We hope to give you more insight with this thread and as described in the first post in this thread, we're working had extending the portfolio.
Answers to your specific questions:
- More family members will be introduced, thats for sure and they will have more memory! As soon as we have more info on this, we'll inform you guys.
- As described in the first thread, USB will come :D !!!
- No such plans, but you never know.

Inputs from rkiryanov

Quote:

1) LPC23xx on Cortex-M0 (without USB and Ethernet, but with segment LCD driver)
2) LPC24xx on Cortex-M3 (with USB OTG, Ethernet MII, matrix LCD driver, EMC with SDRAM DDR support)

- So yes we'll have the USB. For the Ethernet and segment LCD, no announcements to be made here.
- The LPC1700 already has the USB OTG and Ethernet with RMII.
- EMC is yet to come.
- Matrix LCD driver, no plans there. But the LPC1700 e.g. has DMA2GPIO with fast GPIO ports. We'll have the LCD interface like the LPC24xx.

We appreciate all the inputs!
Thanks,

Re: LPC1000 roadmap

lpcware — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 02:29:38 GMT

Content originally posted in LPCWare by rkiryanov on Tue Apr 13 02:11:01 MST 2010

Quote: NXP_Europe
Inputs from rkiryanov
- For the Ethernet and segment LCD, no announcements to be made here.

Actually, [B]without[/B] Ethernet to keep price low. Built in segment LCD is good thing for low power designs.

Re: LPC1000 roadmap

lpcware — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 02:29:39 GMT

Content originally posted in LPCWare by LarryP on Tue Apr 13 04:46:43 MST 2010
@NXP European team,

Thanks for answering my questions and giving us an idea of what to expect.

-- Larry

Re: LPC1000 roadmap

lpcware — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 02:29:39 GMT

Content originally posted in LPCWare by moises on Tue Apr 13 06:21:39 MST 2010
NXP

Thanks for quick response regarding question on roadmap for your Cortex Parts.

Its great that you are going to spend time in optimizing power consumption on M0
parts. I just hope that you also consider RTC with Alarms and Calander. This is very useful in low power sensor and data logging systems.

I would also like to see that you incorporate a low power high efficient DC/DC converter on the chip as you have done for the LPC3154. This will be very useful in battery power devices.

LCD-segmented drivers this will open up more possibilities for this great chips.
CAN and USB yes!
How about LIN?

Any improvements on the analog side of this chips? 10-Bit ADC are not cutting it any more with todays demands for higher resolution signal sampling.

Any thoughts on I2S for low power Audio applications?

I guess I will have to wait for your official roadmap guide for your LPC Cortex Chips.

Thanks!:p

Re: LPC1000 roadmap

lpcware — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 02:29:40 GMT

Content originally posted in LPCWare by NXP_Europe on Tue Apr 13 11:42:55 MST 2010
Hi rkiryanov,

Quote: rkiryanov
Actually, [B]without[/B] Ethernet to keep price low. Built in segment LCD is good thing for low power designs.

I'm so used to everyone just wants more and more on the chip, that I completely over-read the out of without :cool:

Kind regards,

Re: LPC1000 roadmap

lpcware — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 02:29:40 GMT

Content originally posted in LPCWare by NXP_Europe on Tue Apr 13 12:23:42 MST 2010
Hi Moises,
Thanks a lot for the inputs and thoughts!

Quote: Moises
NXP

Thanks for quick response regarding question on roadmap for your Cortex Parts.

Its great that you are going to spend time in optimizing power consumption on M0
parts. I just hope that you also consider RTC with Alarms and Calander. This is very useful in low power sensor and data logging systems.

I would also like to see that you incorporate a low power high efficient DC/DC converter on the chip as you have done for the LPC3154. This will be very useful in battery power devices.

LCD-segmented drivers this will open up more possibilities for this great chips.
CAN and USB yes!
How about LIN?

Any improvements on the analog side of this chips? 10-Bit ADC are not cutting it any more with todays demands for higher resolution signal sampling.

Any thoughts on I2S for low power Audio applications?

I guess I will have to wait for your official roadmap guide for your LPC Cortex Chips.

Thanks!:p

A couple of comments/remarks:
- Obviously a RTC is required in low-power applications, we recognized that. No official announcements there yet ;)
- On the DC/DC, we already support operation range from 1V8 to 3V3 and of course I know you'd like to go lower.
- You'll see the analog content on-chip increase and improve..

As mentioned, we'll keep you guys updated!

Kind regards,

Re: LPC1000 roadmap

lpcware — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 02:29:41 GMT

Content originally posted in LPCWare by rkiryanov on Tue Apr 13 12:32:58 MST 2010

Quote: NXP_Europe
- Obviously a RTC is required in low-power applications, we recognized that.

If you can decrease consumption current to 2-3 uA in sleep mode (not deep sleep) with slow [B]crystal[/B] (to keep accuracy) oscillator (32kHz) - RTC can be software. This will be very cool.

Re: LPC1000 roadmap

lpcware — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 02:29:41 GMT

Content originally posted in LPCWare by Luis Digital on Tue Apr 13 20:14:23 MST 2010
Hello,

I wanted to know on a chip (M0/M3) with Ethernet that can connect directly to the transformer.

I've seen several, but they need an additional chip.

NXP has it or there are future plans to integrate all in one chip?

Also a version of LPC11xx/LPC13xx with RTC is a good idea, as others have said.

Thanks.

Re: LPC1000 roadmap

lpcware — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 02:29:42 GMT

Content originally posted in LPCWare by jmg on Sat Apr 17 16:29:44 MST 2010

Quote: NXP_Europe
Hi All
In the [B]Roadmap/Plan for future Cortex Mx parts?[/B] thread there were some questions on our roadmap.
We hope we can make thinks more transparent for you by using this thread.
Thanks,

Good idea, but now if you are logged in, the original Road map list, is now auto-jumped away from.

I do have a PLL Question: We have an app that needs a good PLL, and the LPC series seem quite similar, BUT the LPC175x series, is just that bit smarter.
(just a few more bits in the Dividers, similar VCO ranges)

Which is a shame, as we had hoped for a smaller package, and we do not need Ethernet/USB, so the LPC175x is both too large physically, and $$

Q: Are there any plans to either
a) improve the PLLs on the lower end parts, so they are as flexible as LPC175x
or
b) Offer lower pin / test subsets of the LPC175x series ?
[b) being more likely as it's less engineering... ]
ideal would be TQFP48 LPC175x (minus ethernet is OK)

Re: LPC1000 roadmap

lpcware — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 02:29:43 GMT

Content originally posted in LPCWare by NXP_Europe on Mon Apr 19 00:30:25 MST 2010
Hi all,
For the ones privileged of being in Silicon Valley next week

http://www.nxp.com/news/content/file_1696.html

Kind regards,

Re: LPC1000 roadmap

lpcware — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 02:29:43 GMT

Content originally posted in LPCWare by jmg on Mon Apr 19 20:29:01 MST 2010

Quote: NXP_Europe
[B]NXP to Demonstrate New Class of DSC Based on ARM Cortex-M4[/B]

That says 150MHz, but does not mention flash ?
Are these Genuine Microcontrollers (with on chip memory), or are they external-code Microprocessors ? Packages ? Flash/Ram Sizes ?

Re: LPC1000 roadmap

lpcware — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 02:29:44 GMT

Content originally posted in LPCWare by igorsk on Tue Apr 20 08:21:01 MST 2010
LPC1102 announced.

Quote:
The LPC1102, with 32KB of Flash and 8KB of RAM on-chip, is available in Wafer Level Chip Scale Packaging (WL-CSP) with dimensions of 2.17 mm2 x 2.32 mm2, thickness of 0.6 mm, and pitch of 0.5 mm.
...
Key product features include a 4-channel 10-bit ADC, one UART, one SPI, two 32-bit and two 16-bit timers, and one 24-bit system timer. SWD debugging and programming with four breakpoints and two watchpoints are also included. A total of eleven I/O functions also double as general purpose input and output GPIO for maximum flexibility. Offering very low power consumption with active mode current as low as 130uA/MHz, the LPC1102 features an internal IRC oscillator, accurate to ±1 percent over the industrial temperature and voltage range. It can also be clocked with an external source.

[IMG]http://www.nxp.com/news/pressreleases/images/1701_lo.jpg[/IMG]
Man, this thing is [I]tiny[/I].
I guess it's not really intended for us hobbyists, but I wonder what are the typical application for something like this?

Re: LPC1000 roadmap

lpcware — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 02:29:45 GMT

Content originally posted in LPCWare by ktownsend on Tue Apr 20 08:45:37 MST 2010

Quote: igorsk
I guess it's not really intended for us hobbyists, but I wonder what are the typical application for something like this?

That looks perfect for small wireless sensor nodes. I've been using the LPC1114 in QFN, but found it to be a bit too big. Something this size is perfect. It has SPI for the transceiver, and ADC for the sensors. This should let me cut the board size by at least 25%. Unfortunately, no mention of I2C, though I can probably find analog alternatives for most I2C parts as well. Thanks for the link ... that totally came as a surprise to me (after just spending a decent chunk of change on some prototypes with the 1114).

Kevin.

Re: LPC1000 roadmap

lpcware — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 02:29:45 GMT

Content originally posted in LPCWare by igorsk on Tue Apr 20 09:05:59 MST 2010

Quote: KTownsend
Unfortunately, no mention of I2C, though I can probably find analog alternatives for most I2C parts as well.

Well, they also mention this:
"Additional products in the LPC1100 family will be introduced in Wafer Level Chip Scale Packaging later in 2010."
Maybe they'll have something with I2C.

Re: LPC1000 roadmap

lpcware — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 02:29:46 GMT

Content originally posted in LPCWare by rkiryanov on Tue Apr 20 09:16:01 MST 2010

Quote: KTownsend
That looks perfect for small wireless sensor nodes.

There are dedicated chips for wireless sensor nodes: RF+CPU in one package.

Re: LPC1000 roadmap

lpcware — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 02:29:46 GMT

Content originally posted in LPCWare by ktownsend on Tue Apr 20 10:39:19 MST 2010

Quote: rkiryanov
There are dedicated chips for wireless sensor nodes: RF+CPU in one package.

Indeed, but it leaves you at the mercy of a company to decide which combination of MCU and transceiver you can have. I prefer to pay a few cents more, but be able to chose my own combination of MCU and transceiver.

Re: LPC1000 roadmap

lpcware — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 02:29:47 GMT

Content originally posted in LPCWare by igorsk on Fri Apr 23 19:44:05 MST 2010
LPC11C12 and LPC11C14 announced.
http://ics.nxp.com/products/lpc1000/lpc11xx/lpc11cxx/
[IMG]http://ics.nxp.com/products/lpc1000/lpc11xx/lpc11cxx/images/block.diagram.gif[/IMG]