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I2S Mclk 8x bit clock with Processor expert

tomwood — Mon, 22 Jun 2015 21:18:54 GMT

I am trying to set up the I2S signals with processor expert using the SSI_LDD . I don't seem to be able to get the bit clock and master clock to be in an 8:1 ratio. The master clock seems to always include a divide by 250 in the divider chain and the bit clock does not. I have tried various frequencies but they always have the divide by 250 in the chain. Other ratios are acceptable such as 16:1 and 12:1. In the I2S0_MclkDiv line of the clock path tab of the Master Clock, Clock rate select button there appears to be a 256 divide option but I can't seem to select it.

Re: I2S Mclk 8x bit clock with Processor expert

Alice_Yang — Wed, 24 Jun 2015 07:52:04 GMT

Hello Tom,

(1) Do you mean this can not change ? ->

These configuration of "Clock path" are calculated after we choose "Clock rate", so it can not change by hand.

(2) How to configure the clock ? first we need configure the CPU clock :

then , refer to your demand calculate the Clock rate of I2S, then choose it on clock rate.

(3) Where is the "bit clock" ?

Have a great day,
Alice

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Re: I2S Mclk 8x bit clock with Processor expert

tomwood — Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:15:27 GMT

Yes I have found all of that. If I desire a master clock of 12.288 Mhz it gives me 11.901. For 11.901 then the bit clock should be 1/8 of 11.901 or 1.487625. If I type 1.487625 I get 1.5 Mhz. It is not critical for the frequencies to be any exact number but I think it is important for the bit clock to be 1/8 of the master.

Re: I2S Mclk 8x bit clock with Processor expert

tomwood — Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:36:27 GMT

If I pick 1.4996 Mhz as the bit clock which is an exact power of 2 down from the 95.997 then the bit clock divides by 2 and then 32. Using 11.997 for the master should be attainable as an exact power of 2 division. PE however chooses to first divide by 250 then x 30 . rather than 256 and 32. This gives 11.517 mhz instead of 11.997.

Re: I2S Mclk 8x bit clock with Processor expert

Alice_Yang — Wed, 01 Jul 2015 08:38:46 GMT

Hello Tom,

Could you tell me which chip ? And send me your project which have configuration I2S, i will test and calculate on my side .

Alice

Re: I2S Mclk 8x bit clock with Processor expert

tomwood — Thu, 02 Jul 2015 15:50:59 GMT

I believe I attached a project already. I am using the MK10DN512VLK10. If you try to enter 11.997 for the master clock which is an exact power of 2 down from 95.977 it chooses to divide by 250 instead of 256. I have attached the spec sheet for the codec that I am interfacing to. See the table on page 9. If I try 12.288 for the mclk it chooses to divide by 250 and multiply by 31 to give me 11.901 instead of multiplying by 32 and giving me 12.28512. If I choose 1.536 for the bit clock it chooses 1.6 Mhz when it could have divided by 250 and multiplied by 4 to give me the correct frequency.

Note that the I2S0:Init_I2S component allows the bit clocks to be derived from the mclk giving the precise ratio however I have not been able to get the I2S_PDD to work properly as noted above and in the attached project.

I enquired as to if a non-exact mclk could work here is the reply, which I pretty much expected:

Hi Tom,

MCLK/BICK/LRCK does require exactly their respective power-of-two relationships. Otherwise, internal synchronization will not be correct and the converter will periodically reset itself.

Thanks and regards,

Joel Jones

Applications Engineer

AKM Semiconductor

(408) 436-8580 x5530

1731 Technology Dr., Ste. 500

San Jose, CA 95110

USA

Re: I2S Mclk 8x bit clock with Processor expert

Alice_Yang — Fri, 03 Jul 2015 07:11:38 GMT

Hi Tom,

Which IDE ? and the version .

Re: I2S Mclk 8x bit clock with Processor expert

tomwood — Fri, 03 Jul 2015 13:36:00 GMT

Kinetis Design Studio 2.0.0

Re: I2S Mclk 8x bit clock with Processor expert

Alice_Yang — Mon, 06 Jul 2015 12:49:42 GMT

Hello ,

I have configure the i2s clock on KDS2.0 , i have not found error .

I'm sorry i really can not understand your problem :

(1) "the bit clock should be 1/8 of 11.901" , what's mean the "1/8" ?

the bit clock :

after we finish the configuration of PE , we can got the code (for example the transmit clock (bit clock ) ) :

you can refer to the reference manual to check the "I2Sx_TCR2" register .

(2) In general, the clock data is close to the data which configure form the register ,there have the "Allowed error" .

And if you really want one clock , while the PE have not , you can change the register by hand in the "SSI1.C" file .

Alice

Re: I2S Mclk 8x bit clock with Processor expert

tomwood — Mon, 06 Jul 2015 15:44:20 GMT

The receive clock and the master clock must be in an exact 1:8 ratio. If I set the master clock to 12.288 Mhz then it gives me 11.901 Mhz. It is actually 11.901148 (95.977/250*31). So I must then have a receive clock of 11.901 divided by 8 which would be 1.487625 or more precisely 1.4876435 (11.901148/8). The receive clock generated is 1.500 Mhz (actually 1.499640) which is not 1.487625 or 1.4876435.

An allowed error in frequency is acceptable when interfacing to a codec but the clocks must be in an exact ratio. This exact ratio is achievable in the processor hardware but processor expert does not allow this to be achieved.

Re: I2S Mclk 8x bit clock with Processor expert

Alice_Yang — Tue, 07 Jul 2015 03:52:33 GMT

Hello Tom,

Sorry i don't know why 1:8 ratio .

While it doesn't matter, if yo want the receive clock is 1.487625 or more precisely 1.4876435 (11.901148/8) , do you know the how to

configure the related register, for example I2S0_RCR2 ? If yes, the workaround is configure the register by hand .

For the receive clock is configure by the registers .

Alice

Re: I2S Mclk 8x bit clock with Processor expert

tomwood — Tue, 07 Jul 2015 14:31:50 GMT

I have found a work around by not using this component and I now completely understand the registers. It is essential that the ratio be precisely 8:1 as confirmed by the manufacturer of the codec. I sent his reply to this in a previous email. It appears that there is a bug in this component, the software is not generating the correct frequencies when it should be able to.