topic Re: FlexCAN 800K Baud issue in KinetisK series in Kinetis Microcontrollers

FlexCAN 800K Baud issue in KinetisK series

maryellenmclaug — Wed, 06 Feb 2019 15:10:34 GMT

Hi - I have a MK22FX512AVLL12 with an 8M Osc and 40M Bus Clock. I have successfully setup the FlexCAN to run at 125K, 250K, 500K and 1M baud rate. I cannot get the 800K baud rate to work. Can you point me in a direction of a tool to setup the PhaseSeg1,PhaseSeg2 and PropSeg to get that to work? For the other baud rates I use

/* Default protocol timing configuration, time quantum is 10. */
config->timingConfig.phaseSeg1 = 3;//PRESDIV == 11
config->timingConfig.phaseSeg2 = 2;//
config->timingConfig.propSeg = 1;
config->timingConfig.rJumpwidth = 1;

Re: FlexCAN 800K Baud issue in KinetisK series

mjbcswitzerland — Wed, 06 Feb 2019 20:30:30 GMT

Could you try with the value

0x008b0002 in CAN_CTRL ?

When I run the uTasker project for your chip and oscillator at 800kHz CAN bus it gives me a pre-scaler of 1, phase buffer segment 2 length of 4, time quanta of 6, which result in this register value.

If it works you can get the calculation routine from the open source uTasker project (in kinetis_CAN.h), where the following explanation is also given for the calculation.

// The best choice of clock input is from the external crystal (lowest jitter), however this may not always enable the best settings to achieve the required speed.
// The choice of clock source is user-defined but this routine tries to achieve best settings using highest time quanta resolution. 
//
// There are up to 25 time quanta in a CAN bit time and the bit frequency is equal to the clock frequency divided by the quanta number (8..25 time quanta range)
// There is always a single time quanta at the start of a bit period called the SYNC_SEG which cannot be changed (transitions are expected to occur on the bus during this period)
// The sampling occurs after time segment 1, which is made up of a propagation segment (1..8 time quanta) plus a phase buffer segment 1 (1..8 time quanta),
// followed by time segment 2, made up of phase buffer segment 2 (2..8 time quanta)
//
// CAN standard compliant bit segment settings give the following ranges (re-synchronisation jump width of 2 is used since it is compliant with all)
// Time segment 1 should be 5..10 when time segment 2 is 2 (min/max time quanta per bit is 8/13)
// Time segment 1 should be 4..11 when time segment 2 is 3 (min/max time quanta per bit is 8/15)
// Time segment 1 should be 5..12 when time segment 2 is 4 (min/max time quanta per bit is 10/17)
// Time segment 1 should be 6..13 when time segment 2 is 5 (min/max time quanta per bit is 12/19)
// Time segment 1 should be 7..14 when time segment 2 is 6 (min/max time quanta per bit is 14/21)
// Time segment 1 should be 8..15 when time segment 2 is 7 (min/max time quanta per bit is 16/23)
// Time segment 1 should be 9..16 when time segment 2 is 8 (min/max time quanta per bit is 18/25)
//
static unsigned long fnOptimalCAN_clock(unsigned short usMode, unsigned long ulSpeed)
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Regards

Mark

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Re: FlexCAN 800K Baud issue in KinetisK series

maryellenmclaug — Thu, 07 Feb 2019 13:30:37 GMT

Hi Mark - Thank you for your help and your quick reply. I am using the CAN engine clock source as the peripheral clock, which is setup to be 40 MHz. So that would make CAN_CTRL1 = 0x008b2002 and that doesn't give me 800K. I don't know how to use the uTasker project. Can you retry with my peripheral clock? Thanks for the help. What is the uTasker project?

Re: FlexCAN 800K Baud issue in KinetisK series

mjbcswitzerland — Thu, 07 Feb 2019 16:55:51 GMT

Hi Mary

If you are clocking from the 40MHz bus clock (note that generally the oscillator is recommended for less jitter) the values for 800kHz CAN bus operation are
- pre-scaler of 2
- phase buffer segment 2 length of 8
- time quanta of 25
which results in the register value of 0x01bf2007

uTasker CAN can be seen here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha8cv_XEvco&t=4s

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Regards

Mark

Re: FlexCAN 800K Baud issue in KinetisK series

maryellenmclaug — Thu, 07 Feb 2019 17:35:00 GMT

Mark - This works great. Thank you so much. Can you tell me how to calculate these values? I don't see that anywhere in the video you pointed me to. Can you provide me with the calculations done to get the PropSeg, PhaseSeg1, PhaseSeg2 and the JumpWidth. I was using this document from Freescale that doesn't give results like yours. FlexCAN Bit Timing Calculation. Please advise.

Re: FlexCAN 800K Baud issue in KinetisK series

mjbcswitzerland — Thu, 07 Feb 2019 18:45:41 GMT

Mary

Simple old-fashioned code (no point-and-shoot GUI that may or may not work):
https://github.com/uTasker/uTasker-Kinetis/blob/master/Hardware/Kinetis/kinetis_CAN.h
Line 298: static unsigned long fnOptimalCAN_clock(unsigned short usMode, unsigned long ulSpeed)
BUS_CLOCK is 40000000
usMode passed is CAN_PLL_CLOCK
ulSpeed passed is 800000

Regards

Mark

Re: FlexCAN 800K Baud issue in KinetisK series

Robin_Shen — Wed, 13 Feb 2019 07:37:59 GMT

You can try to use the CAN Bit Time Calculation.

For example 800K baud rate:
    /* Init FlexCAN module. */
    flexcanConfig.baudRate = 800000U;
    flexcanConfig.timingConfig.phaseSeg1 = 7;
    flexcanConfig.timingConfig.phaseSeg2 = 7;
    flexcanConfig.timingConfig.propSeg = 7;
    flexcanConfig.timingConfig.rJumpwidth = 1;

Best Regards,

Robin

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