topic Re: Kinetis KE14Z MCU 12-bit ADC in Kinetis Microcontrollers

Kinetis KE14Z MCU 12-bit ADC

qinshengli — Tue, 01 Aug 2017 20:01:24 GMT

The AD conversion speed of the Kinetis KE14Z is supposed to be up to about 1 us, but I can only get about 5 us in

12-bit resolution. What could be the problem? I'm using the bus clock (24 MHz).

Re: Kinetis KE14Z MCU 12-bit ADC

Robin_Shen — Fri, 04 Aug 2017 03:24:59 GMT

Hi Qinsheng,

Have you try to calculate the total conversion time according to the '36.5.4.5 Sample time and total conversion time' in KE1XZP100M72SF0RM?

The 1200Ksps ADC conversion rate is for 10-bit mode(No ADC hardware averaging Continuous conversions enabled, subsequent conversion time)

Best Regards,

Robin

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Re: Kinetis KE14Z MCU 12-bit ADC

qinshengli — Fri, 04 Aug 2017 16:22:37 GMT

Hi Robin,

Thanks for your reply.

From chapter 36.5.4.5 Sample time and total conversion time:

ADC TOTAL CONVERSION TIME = Sample Phase Time (set by SMPLTS+1) + Hold

Phase (1 ADC Cycle) + Compare Phase Time (8-bit Mode=20 ADC Cycles, 10-bit

Mode=24 ADC Cycles, 12-bit Mode=28 ADC Cycles) + Single or First continuous time

adder (5 ADC cycles + 5 bus clock cycles)

default SMPLTS is 12,

I can get:

For 12-bit, Total ADC cycles = 13 + 1 +28 + 5 + 5 = 52

For 10-bit, Total ADC cycles = 13 + 1 +24 + 5 + 5 = 48

My bus clock frequency is 24 MHz (this is the spec for KE14Z), -->

the total conversion time for 12-bit is: 52 * (1/24000000) = 0.000002167 sec = 2.167 us. (The actual conversion time I measured is only 5.5 us, much slower than 2.167 us.)

the total conversion time for 10-bit is: 48 * (1/24000000) = 0.000002 sec = 2 us

It looks like if I use the bus clock for ADC clock, I cannot get the 1 us conversion time even with 10-bit resolution.

Also the measured conversion time is much longer than the calculated conversion time.

Best regards,

Qinsheng

Re: Kinetis KE14Z MCU 12-bit ADC

wayne_wang — Tue, 08 Aug 2017 04:22:52 GMT

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Re: Kinetis KE14Z MCU 12-bit ADC

Robin_Shen — Tue, 08 Aug 2017 09:29:39 GMT

Hi Qinsheng,

Continuous conversions enabled\ subsequent conversion time

You need to decrease the 'Single or First continuous time adder':

The ADC TOTAL CONVERSION TIME = Sample Phase Time (set by SMPLTS+1) + Compare Phase Time (12-bit Mode=28 ADC Cycles) + Single or First continuous time adder (5 ADC cycles + 5 bus clock cycles)

default SMPLTS is 12

For 12-bit, Total ADC cycles = 13 + 1 +28 + 5 + 5 = 52 42

The actual conversion time you measured should be about 1.75us.

Please check the value of SCG_LPFLLDIV[LPFLLDIV2] and set the ADC in Continuous Conversion mode(ADCx_SC3[ADCO]=1)

And measure the "Voltage drops at ADC input during sampling process" to test the ADC conversion rate.

Best Regards,

Robin

Re: Kinetis KE14Z MCU 12-bit ADC

qinshengli — Tue, 08 Aug 2017 13:14:55 GMT

Hi Robin,

Thanks for your reply.

For my application I cannot use the continuous mode. Also I’m using the bus clock as the ADC clock and as a result the SCG_LPFLLDIV[LPFLLDIV2] should not affect the ADC clock.

Best regards,

Qinsheng

Re: Kinetis KE14Z MCU 12-bit ADC

Robin_Shen — Wed, 09 Aug 2017 07:01:08 GMT

I am afraid you have select the SOSC_CLK as the ADC clock.

The frequency of SOSC_CLK depends on the external crystal oscillator.

The frequency of FLL_CLK may faster than SOSC_CLK.

You can have a try to select the FLL_CLK as the ADC clock:

CLOCK_SetIpSrc(kCLOCK_Adc0, kCLOCK_IpSrcLpFllAsync);//LPFLL async clock

Best Regards,

Robin

Re: Kinetis KE14Z MCU 12-bit ADC

qinshengli — Wed, 09 Aug 2017 15:48:05 GMT

Hi Robin,

Thanks for your replay.

I tried to use the FLL_CLK as ADC clock with LPFLLDIV2 = 2, --> the ADC clock frequency should be 36 MHz.

And then I measured the AD conversion speed and it is 3 times as fast (about 1.9 us) as before.

(When I use the bus clock (24 MHz) as ADC Clock, the AD conversion speed is about 5.7 us.)

My question is: 36 MHz is only 1.5 times of 24 MHz; however the AD conversion speed is 3 times as fast as before.

What can cause the differences?

Best regards,

Qinsheng

Re: Kinetis KE14Z MCU 12-bit ADC

Robin_Shen — Thu, 10 Aug 2017 02:15:41 GMT

I don't know how you select the bus clock as the clock source for fADCK. The bus clock is for the registers of ADC module.

There are only four clock sources can be selected as fADCK:

00 Alternate clock 1 (ADC_ALTCLK1)
01 Alternate clock 2 (ADC_ALTCLK2)
10 Alternate clock 3 (ADC_ALTCLK3)
11 Alternate clock 4 (ADC_ALTCLK4)

ALTCLK2~4 are not connected on this chip. So you can only select 'Alternate clock 1 (ADC_ALTCLK1)' as fADCK.

There are only four clock sources for 'Alternate clock 1 (ADC_ALTCLK1)' which act as fADCK:

①FLL_CLK

②SOSC_CLK

③SIRC_CLK

④FIRC_CLK

If you configure PCC_ADC0[PCS]=001 - System Oscillator Bus Clock. Then ②SOSC_CLK is selected as fADCK.

The frequency of ②SOSC_CLK is depends on the external crystal. I am not sure if you are using 24MHz crystal.

Best Regards,

Robin

Re: Kinetis KE14Z MCU 12-bit ADC

qinshengli — Thu, 10 Aug 2017 13:28:19 GMT

Hi Robin,

Thanks for your reply.

From the chart you sent to me, the frequency of SOSC_CLK depends on the external crystal. The EXTAL frequency on my board is 8 MHz, only 1/3 of 24 MHz. And this explains why my measured conversion speed is about 6 us instead of 2 us as calculated.

Best regards,

Qinsheng