topic Re: LTIB native toolchain in i.MX Processors

LTIB native toolchain

niklasmolin — Mon, 09 Sep 2013 16:25:51 GMT

Hi.

I'm just getting started working with the i.MX6 and LTIB.

I'm trying to figure out how to include a toolchain (gcc, g++ etc.) when I compile my LTIB image.

Do I download some package and cross-compile it or do I choose this in the LTIB menu?

Thanks,

Niklas

Re: LTIB native toolchain

LeonardoSandova — Mon, 09 Sep 2013 18:14:57 GMT

which toolchain are you trying to use? Not sure if it is easier, but have you tried to do it on Yocto instead of LTIB?

Leo

Re: LTIB native toolchain

niklasmolin — Mon, 09 Sep 2013 18:21:39 GMT

I'm using the LTIB toolchain, which is installed when you install the LTIB package.

I have no problem to compile the LTIB package and also run it on my target board (booting from a SD card).

But I'm trying to figure out how to include the toolchain, so I can compile code on my target system (Freescale).

/Niklas

Re: LTIB native toolchain

LeonardoSandova — Mon, 09 Sep 2013 19:22:34 GMT

Got it. No idea how to create a sdk image. BTW, why do you want to compile on the board?

Re: LTIB native toolchain

niklasmolin — Mon, 09 Sep 2013 20:56:45 GMT

Some applications I want to use might be easier to compile naively instead of cross-compiler (for instance couchDB etc.)

Re: LTIB native toolchain

LeonardoSandova — Mon, 09 Sep 2013 21:34:31 GMT

I see. I have done the same job but with Yocto. On Yocto, chose any image (i.e. core-image-base) and add the following lines to your conf/local.conf file:

IMAGE_FEATURES += " \

    dev-pkgs \

    tools-sdk \

"

EXTRA_IMAGE_FEATURES += " \

    tools-debug \

    tools-profile \

    tools-testapps \

    debug-tweaks \

"

The resulting .sdcard will have most of the familiar development tools and of course the toolchain. An extra-bonus would be if you create the CouchDB recipe (if case no one has done it before) so you do not need to add all the SDK stuff into your final LInux image. BTW, any reason using couch instead of mongo :smileyhappy: ?

Leo

Re: LTIB native toolchain

niklasmolin — Mon, 09 Sep 2013 22:51:09 GMT

Thanks,

I'll read more about Yocto.

Regarding the database.

I'm more familiar with couchDB plus I'm not sure how "good/flexible" the replication is in mongo.

/Niklas

Re: LTIB native toolchain

Yuri — Tue, 10 Sep 2013 02:48:40 GMT

You may use GCC from oneiric file_system

https://www.freescale.com/webapp/Download?colCode=L3.0.35_4.1.0_UBUNTU_RFS_BSP&appType=license&location=null&fpsp=1&WT_T…

Re: LTIB native toolchain

niklasmolin — Tue, 10 Sep 2013 04:21:10 GMT

I saw in the toolchain for the LTIB that they have native tools for the ARM.

So I copied that directory into my image and it seems to be working.

Is this a "wrong" approach?

/Niklas

Re: LTIB native toolchain

LeonardoSandova — Tue, 10 Sep 2013 18:53:10 GMT

Not sure if it is wrong approach but all packages should be installed using LTIB/Yocto. The problem comes when you copy binaries to the target but not its dependencies. Try compiling the kernel, let us know if it worked and how long it took to compile :smileyhappy:

Leo

Re: LTIB native toolchain

niklasmolin — Wed, 11 Sep 2013 18:39:59 GMT

I haven't tried to compile the kernel.

But for the moment I'm trying to compile Erlang/OTP (it is still compiling and seems to take time).

I had to set the environment variable CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH, since it had problem to find some defines when using g++.

I have to check if the default include path for the g++ can be included in the configuration of LTIB.

Re: LTIB native toolchain

niklasmolin — Wed, 30 Oct 2013 20:42:03 GMT

Hi Lenoardo.

I have decided to change to YOCTO instead, since LTIB will not be "supported" anymore.

When I do a sync, will it always rebuild the whole image (seems to take forever)?

Do you know if YOCTO takes more power than LTIB?

Right now I'm running the yocto base image and it seems to have a higher CPU temperature.

When I run the LTIB (without much extra programs running) it stays around 43 degree Celsius.

When I run Yocto base image I get a CPU temperature around 51 degree Celsius.

/Niklas

Re: LTIB native toolchain

LeonardoSandova — Thu, 31 Oct 2013 16:00:06 GMT

Oh really? Are you comparing LTIB min profile versus Yocto core-ima-minimal? Both are the minimal filesystem to boot a board. By the way, are you taking the temperature from /sys?

'sync' updates all the branches on Sources, if you have created some commits internally, those will be put in front, in other words, 'sync' command rebases. Because the Yocto Metadata was updated, bitbake will notice this an it will do a rebuild.

Leo

Re: LTIB native toolchain

niklasmolin — Thu, 31 Oct 2013 16:32:34 GMT

I compared the LTIB build I did (base on the sabrelite built med additional packages) with the core-image-base (YOCTO).

I use the sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp to check the temperature.

But I also notice if I touch the processor, it's much warmer when I run the YOCTO image compared to the LTIB image.

/Niklas

Re: LTIB native toolchain

LeonardoSandova — Thu, 31 Oct 2013 16:41:41 GMT

naive question: did you let the board (SoC) cool between one measure and another? In order to escalate this, I suggest to do the test bases on the minimal profiles on both system. Do not add your packages in this test.

Leo

Re: LTIB native toolchain

niklasmolin — Thu, 31 Oct 2013 16:59:29 GMT

Leo,

I'll try to use the minimal image and check the result.

I don't think I waited that long time between each run.

Right now the base-image is showing 47 degree (not sure if it's a little bit colder in the room right now).

But since I went back and forth between the LTIB image and the YOCTO image and saw this result, I don't think that the high temperature could have be caused by the processor hasn't been cooled down.

Could there be different frequency settings for the 2 build enviroments (I'm building for the sabrelite board)?

/Niklas

Re: LTIB native toolchain

LeonardoSandova — Thu, 31 Oct 2013 17:08:08 GMT

It could be. which u-boot and kernel versions are you running in both systems?

Re: LTIB native toolchain

niklasmolin — Thu, 31 Oct 2013 17:14:33 GMT

I'm using the u-boot from the SPI flash on the sabrelite board and I haven't changed that one.

In LTIB the kernel is 3.0.35-2508 and in YOCTO image 3.0.35-4.1.0.

/Niklas

Re: LTIB native toolchain

LeonardoSandova — Thu, 31 Oct 2013 17:21:43 GMT

No idea Niklas, both versions kernels are basically the same. I am not sure if the kernl init script is launching the same daemons, that may explain the temp difference. THis is important, so please create a new thread with all this info.

Leo

Re: LTIB native toolchain

niklasmolin — Thu, 31 Oct 2013 17:27:21 GMT

Hi Leo.

Do you want me to create the thread in this forum or in yoctoproject.org?

/Niklas