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i.MX8M Mini PDM SNR issue

m_c — Tue, 09 Jul 2019 10:20:56 GMT

Customer modified the definition of OSR in fsl_micfil.h from 0 to 8 as below to let PDM clock worked at 3.072MHz when recording by 48KHz sampling rate.

#define MICFIL_CTRL2_OSR_DEFAULT (8 << MICFIL_CTRL2_CICOSR_SHIFT)

Customer also set “MICFIL Quality Select” to 1 and all “CH? Gain” to 15 , but recording SNR becomes to very low.

Read back MICFIL Control register 2:

root@imx8mmevk:/usr# /unit_tests/memtool -32 0x30080004 1

Reading 0x1 count starting at address 0x30080004

0x30080004: 02080010

How to improve recording quality?

Re: i.MX8M Mini PDM SNR issue

igorpadykov — Sat, 13 Jul 2019 01:44:31 GMT

Hi m.c.

for quality one can check PDM registers value and compare with

Table 13-57. Quality Modes i.MX 8M Mini Applications Processor Reference Manual

also may be useful to look at Table 7-9. PDM Microphone controls attached Linux Manual

and pdm unit test

mxc_pdm_test\test - imx-test - i.MX Driver Test Application Software

Best regards
igor
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Re: i.MX8M Mini PDM SNR issue

m_c — Mon, 15 Jul 2019 14:20:38 GMT

Customer verify settings as below.

root@imx8mmevk:/usr/share/sounds/alsa# arecord -l
**** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices ****
card 0: imxspdif [imx-spdif], device 0: S/PDIF PCM snd-soc-dummy-dai-0 []
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: imxaudiomicfil [imx-audio-micfil], device 0: micfil hifi snd-soc-dummy-dai-0 []
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 3: pcm1862audio [pcm1862-audio], device 0: Audio pcm1862.1-004a-0 []
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

root@imx8mmevk:/usr/share/sounds/amixer -c 1 cset name='MICFIL Quality Select' 1
numid=9,iface=MIXER,name='MICFIL Quality Select'
; type=ENUMERATED,access=rw------,values=1,items=8
; Item #0 'Medium'
; Item #1 'High'
; Item #2 'N/A'
; Item #3 'N/A'
; Item #4 'VLow2'
; Item #5 'VLow1'
; Item #6 'VLow0'
; Item #7 'Low'
: values=1

root@imx8mmevk:/usr/share/sounds/alsa# amixer -c 1 cget name='CH0 Gain'
numid=1,iface=MIXER,name='CH0 Gain'
; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=1,min=0,max=15,step=0
: values=15
| dBscale-min=0.00dB,step=1.00dB,mute=0

root@imx8mmevk:/usr/share/sounds/alsa# amixer -c 1 cget name='CH1 Gain'
numid=2,iface=MIXER,name='CH1 Gain'
; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=1,min=0,max=15,step=0
: values=15
| dBscale-min=0.00dB,step=1.00dB,mute=0

root@imx8mmevk:/usr/share/sounds/alsa# amixer -c 1 cget name='CH2 Gain'
numid=3,iface=MIXER,name='CH2 Gain'
; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=1,min=0,max=15,step=0
: values=15
| dBscale-min=0.00dB,step=1.00dB,mute=0

root@imx8mmevk:/usr/share/sounds/alsa# amixer -c 1 cget name='CH3 Gain'
numid=4,iface=MIXER,name='CH3 Gain'
; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=1,min=0,max=15,step=0
: values=15
| dBscale-min=0.00dB,step=1.00dB,mute=0

root@imx8mmevk:/usr/share/sounds/alsa# amixer -c 1 cget name='CH4 Gain'
numid=5,iface=MIXER,name='CH4 Gain'
; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=1,min=0,max=15,step=0
: values=15
| dBscale-min=0.00dB,step=1.00dB,mute=0

root@imx8mmevk:/usr/share/sounds/alsa# amixer -c 1 cget name='CH5 Gain'
numid=6,iface=MIXER,name='CH5 Gain'
; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=1,min=0,max=15,step=0
: values=15
| dBscale-min=0.00dB,step=1.00dB,mute=0

root@imx8mmevk:/usr/share/sounds/alsa# amixer -c 1 cget name='Clock Source'
numid=16,iface=MIXER,name='Clock Source'
; type=ENUMERATED,access=rw------,values=1,items=4
; Item #0 'Auto'
; Item #1 'AudioPLL1'
; Item #2 'AudioPLL2'
; Item #3 'ExtClk3'
: values=0

root@imx8mmevk:/usr/share/sounds/alsa# arecord -Dhw:1,0 -r 48000 -f S16_LE -c 6 > 48:3.072M.wav
Recording WAVE 'stdin' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Channels 6

Re: i.MX8M Mini PDM SNR issue

igorpadykov — Tue, 16 Jul 2019 00:49:30 GMT

pdm frequency settings are tightly linked to each other, so one can recheck its

requirements given on

Best regards
igor

Re: i.MX8M Mini PDM SNR issue

m_c — Fri, 19 Jul 2019 02:32:42 GMT

that’s why change #define MICFIL_CTRL2_OSR_DEFAULT (8 << MICFIL_CTRL2_CICOSR_SHIFT)
to let PDM clock works at 3.072MHz when we record in 48KHz. The SNR is bad.

But If change back #define MICFIL_CTRL2_OSR_DEFAULT (0 << MICFIL_CTRL2_CICOSR_SHIFT)
The PDM clock works at 3.072MHz when we recording in 24KHz. The result is good for us.

Re: i.MX8M Mini PDM SNR issue

igorpadykov — Fri, 19 Jul 2019 04:38:13 GMT

there are no guidelines how set good SNR and explanation why its is bad

on some settings. There are quite complicated digital filterings and there is no

formula how achieve good SNR and high volume. All such settings can be found

experimentally. Linux Manual and Demo Image just gives some tested PDM configurations

which seem work well,

Best regards
igor

Re: i.MX8M Mini PDM SNR issue

aldo_ricci — Tue, 21 Sep 2021 10:25:28 GMT

Hi,

I think I have a similar problem. I'm trying to record 4 PDM mics, but I'm getting a very big DC-offset in the acquired data:

I have enabled DC remover control via alsamixer, and double checked that the applied register value is correct. Unfortunately, the DC offset does not change. Do you have any idea why?

Thanks