topic Re: PMIC PCA9450CHNY Not Work in Power Management

PMIC PCA9450CHNY Not Work

Justinou — Wed, 16 Oct 2024 06:15:12 GMT

Hi Sir,

We design PMIC PCA9450CHNY in our I.MX8M plus board.
When VSYS=5V without loading (0A), we measured LX5 pin and found that spike max upto 7.133V. (please refers to screenshot)

Will this spike (7.133V) cause PMIC IC damage?
That's a reason why spec mentioned that LX5 pin voltage can't over INB45(5V)+0.5V= 5.5V?

Thanks

Re: PMIC PCA9450CHNY Not Work

guoweisun — Wed, 16 Oct 2024 06:29:35 GMT

This test value just only can be used as a reference because it shouldn't be represented as the real value, during test also there is the test error included.

According the spec if above 5.5V the PMIC had already damaged.

Hope you can understand!

Re: PMIC PCA9450CHNY Not Work

Justinou — Wed, 16 Oct 2024 07:03:45 GMT

Hi Guowesun

Thanks for your replied. You mentioned over 5.5V, PMIC IC already damaged?

After double check on PCA9450 spec page 61

https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/data-sheet/PCA9450.pdf

Limiting values on LX5 should be upto 6.5V?
If LX5 over 6.5V, PMIC IC will damage.
Does my understanding correct?

Thanks
Justin

Re: PMIC PCA9450CHNY Not Work

guoweisun — Wed, 16 Oct 2024 07:10:18 GMT

Sorry that give your typo,the limited value should be up to 6.5V.

Perhaps you didn't understand my answer:

That customer test waveform can't represent the real status of LX pins because the test already decouple the error (probe R/C/L parasitic parameter )so it seems much larger than actual value.

I also believe that's very difficult for customer to test the real value of IC's LX pin.

Re: PMIC PCA9450CHNY Not Work

Justinou — Wed, 16 Oct 2024 10:45:24 GMT

Hi Guowesun,

Thanks for your repied. We would like to double check more informartion on PMIC IC itself.

Would you explain what is the meaning of the footnote shown below?
What is the breakdown voltage V(BR)DSS of the internal MOSFETs of the PCA9450? Is it allowed that they enter Avalanche mode if the voltage spike exceeds the breakdown voltage?

Page 61 footnote

[1] LX voltage overshoot and undershoot above or below the absolute maximum rating during power transistor switching period is normal and guaranteed by
design as it is already checked in design phase in the point of device safe operating area (SOA) and lifetime.

Thnaks

Re: PMIC PCA9450CHNY Not Work

guoweisun — Thu, 17 Oct 2024 00:49:50 GMT

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