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    <title>topic Re: Applet in Hardware</title>
    <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/Hardware/Applet/m-p/2396281#M186</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.nxp.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/263519"&gt;@aaschi&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the reaching out! Please have my comments as below:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1. What is the practical development path to build and load a custom Java Card applet on the SE051P (which SDK, tools, and Java Card / GlobalPlatform version)? Is custom-applet provisioning done at the factory (pre-loaded by NXP or a partner), or can it be done post-issuance in the field via a GlobalPlatform secure channel, and what key-management requirements apply? // We provide docs on these topics, please request them via the secure file channel. please refer to the following for more details.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Kan_Li_0-1784275947082.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.nxp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/392570iB0FFFD478021A786/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Kan_Li_0-1784275947082.png" alt="Kan_Li_0-1784275947082.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. Are there licensing, NDA, or partnership requirements — or a minimum order quantity — to obtain SE051P parts together with the ability to develop and provision custom applets? // Yes, NDA is needed, and MOQ as well. please check with your&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;local NXP representative for more details.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;B. Coexistence of payment and custom logic (one vs. two secure elements)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3. Can a single JCOP Pay (payment) platform host, simultaneously, an EMVCo-certified payment applet AND a separate custom Java Card applet with independent application logic? Or does EMVCo certification require the chip to run only the payment applet — meaning a separate secure element would be required for the custom logic?// No, you have to&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;use two secure elements — one certified payment SE and one SE051P/custom SE for proprietary logic.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;4. If coexistence on a single chip is possible, does loading a custom applet affect or invalidate the EMVCo certification of the payment applet?// No, it is not possible.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;C. Monotonic counter and crypto available to a custom applet (SE051P)//&lt;SPAN&gt;The SE05x IoT-applet documentation supports monotonic counter secure objects, so from hardware perspective, it should support by SE051P as well, but&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;it depends on your custom applet implementation.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;5. Is the native monotonic Counter secure-object accessible from a custom applet via the Java Card API, or only through the pre-installed IoT applet interface? // you can not install the SE05x&amp;nbsp;pre-installed IoT applet on SE051P, you have to develop your own custom applet.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;6. Which signature algorithms and ECC curves are available to a custom applet on the SE051P (e.g., ECDSA P-256/P-384, Ed25519)? Is internal signing of a value stored on-chip (as with the POLICY_OBJ_INTERNAL_SIGN mechanism) available from a custom applet as well?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;//&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;The SE05x IoT applet supports a broad set of algorithms and curves so SE051P can support but it depends on your custom applet implementation&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;D. Power for a coin-cell (CR2032) device&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;7. What is the typical duration (in milliseconds) of a single ECDSA P-256 signature operation, and what is the idle/standby current of the SE051P outside active crypto operations? (So that energy per operation and standby drain can be estimated.)//ECDSA P-256 verification is documented as &amp;lt;55 ms; signing timing was not found. Active asymmetric crypto current is up to 16.5 mA. Such info is from&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;The SE05x IoT applet, for a custom applet, it depends on your own implementation.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;8. For a part powered by a high-impedance source such as a CR2032 coin cell, does NXP recommend a specific decoupling capacitor or buffer to handle the 16.5 mA peak current during a crypto operation?//No specific CR2032 buffer capacitor value was found; design around 16.5 mA peak plus operation time and cell ESR.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;9. In the SE051P, can the contactless interface operate RF-powered (drawing energy from the reader field) for custom-applet operations, or does custom on-chip logic require external power (e.g., a battery)? If RF-powered operation is possible, are there constraints — under field power alone — on operations such as ECDSA signing, signature verification, monotonic-counter increment, secure-object update, or other non-volatile memory writes?//RF-powered SE051 operation is supported, but RF-only support for custom applet crypto/NVM updates must be confirmed and tested.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hope that helps,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Have a great day,&lt;BR /&gt;Kan&lt;/P&gt;
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    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2026 08:38:24 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Kan_Li</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-07-17T08:38:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Applet</title>
      <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/Hardware/Applet/m-p/2396025#M185</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi, please. Can anyone help me?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;1. What is the practical development path to build and load a custom Java Card applet on the SE051P (which SDK, tools, and Java Card / GlobalPlatform version)? Is custom-applet provisioning done at the factory (pre-loaded by NXP or a partner), or can it be done post-issuance in the field via a GlobalPlatform secure channel, and what key-management requirements apply?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2. Are there licensing, NDA, or partnership requirements — or a minimum order quantity — to obtain SE051P parts together with the ability to develop and provision custom applets?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;B. Coexistence of payment and custom logic (one vs. two secure elements)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3. Can a single JCOP Pay (payment) platform host, simultaneously, an EMVCo-certified payment applet AND a separate custom Java Card applet with independent application logic? Or does EMVCo certification require the chip to run only the payment applet — meaning a separate secure element would be required for the custom logic?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;4. If coexistence on a single chip is possible, does loading a custom applet affect or invalidate the EMVCo certification of the payment applet?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;C. Monotonic counter and crypto available to a custom applet (SE051P)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;5. Is the native monotonic Counter secure-object accessible from a custom applet via the Java Card API, or only through the pre-installed IoT applet interface?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;6. Which signature algorithms and ECC curves are available to a custom applet on the SE051P (e.g., ECDSA P-256/P-384, Ed25519)? Is internal signing of a value stored on-chip (as with the POLICY_OBJ_INTERNAL_SIGN mechanism) available from a custom applet as well?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;D. Power for a coin-cell (CR2032) device&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;7. What is the typical duration (in milliseconds) of a single ECDSA P-256 signature operation, and what is the idle/standby current of the SE051P outside active crypto operations? (So that energy per operation and standby drain can be estimated.)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;8. For a part powered by a high-impedance source such as a CR2032 coin cell, does NXP recommend a specific decoupling capacitor or buffer to handle the 16.5 mA peak current during a crypto operation?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;9. In the SE051P, can the contactless interface operate RF-powered (drawing energy from the reader field) for custom-applet operations, or does custom on-chip logic require external power (e.g., a battery)? If RF-powered operation is possible, are there constraints — under field power alone — on operations such as ECDSA signing, signature verification, monotonic-counter increment, secure-object update, or other non-volatile memory writes?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2026 15:18:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.nxp.com/t5/Hardware/Applet/m-p/2396025#M185</guid>
      <dc:creator>aaschi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-07-16T15:18:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Applet</title>
      <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/Hardware/Applet/m-p/2396281#M186</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.nxp.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/263519"&gt;@aaschi&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the reaching out! Please have my comments as below:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1. What is the practical development path to build and load a custom Java Card applet on the SE051P (which SDK, tools, and Java Card / GlobalPlatform version)? Is custom-applet provisioning done at the factory (pre-loaded by NXP or a partner), or can it be done post-issuance in the field via a GlobalPlatform secure channel, and what key-management requirements apply? // We provide docs on these topics, please request them via the secure file channel. please refer to the following for more details.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Kan_Li_0-1784275947082.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.nxp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/392570iB0FFFD478021A786/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Kan_Li_0-1784275947082.png" alt="Kan_Li_0-1784275947082.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. Are there licensing, NDA, or partnership requirements — or a minimum order quantity — to obtain SE051P parts together with the ability to develop and provision custom applets? // Yes, NDA is needed, and MOQ as well. please check with your&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;local NXP representative for more details.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;B. Coexistence of payment and custom logic (one vs. two secure elements)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3. Can a single JCOP Pay (payment) platform host, simultaneously, an EMVCo-certified payment applet AND a separate custom Java Card applet with independent application logic? Or does EMVCo certification require the chip to run only the payment applet — meaning a separate secure element would be required for the custom logic?// No, you have to&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;use two secure elements — one certified payment SE and one SE051P/custom SE for proprietary logic.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;4. If coexistence on a single chip is possible, does loading a custom applet affect or invalidate the EMVCo certification of the payment applet?// No, it is not possible.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;C. Monotonic counter and crypto available to a custom applet (SE051P)//&lt;SPAN&gt;The SE05x IoT-applet documentation supports monotonic counter secure objects, so from hardware perspective, it should support by SE051P as well, but&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;it depends on your custom applet implementation.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;5. Is the native monotonic Counter secure-object accessible from a custom applet via the Java Card API, or only through the pre-installed IoT applet interface? // you can not install the SE05x&amp;nbsp;pre-installed IoT applet on SE051P, you have to develop your own custom applet.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;6. Which signature algorithms and ECC curves are available to a custom applet on the SE051P (e.g., ECDSA P-256/P-384, Ed25519)? Is internal signing of a value stored on-chip (as with the POLICY_OBJ_INTERNAL_SIGN mechanism) available from a custom applet as well?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;//&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;The SE05x IoT applet supports a broad set of algorithms and curves so SE051P can support but it depends on your custom applet implementation&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;D. Power for a coin-cell (CR2032) device&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;7. What is the typical duration (in milliseconds) of a single ECDSA P-256 signature operation, and what is the idle/standby current of the SE051P outside active crypto operations? (So that energy per operation and standby drain can be estimated.)//ECDSA P-256 verification is documented as &amp;lt;55 ms; signing timing was not found. Active asymmetric crypto current is up to 16.5 mA. Such info is from&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;The SE05x IoT applet, for a custom applet, it depends on your own implementation.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;8. For a part powered by a high-impedance source such as a CR2032 coin cell, does NXP recommend a specific decoupling capacitor or buffer to handle the 16.5 mA peak current during a crypto operation?//No specific CR2032 buffer capacitor value was found; design around 16.5 mA peak plus operation time and cell ESR.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;9. In the SE051P, can the contactless interface operate RF-powered (drawing energy from the reader field) for custom-applet operations, or does custom on-chip logic require external power (e.g., a battery)? If RF-powered operation is possible, are there constraints — under field power alone — on operations such as ECDSA signing, signature verification, monotonic-counter increment, secure-object update, or other non-volatile memory writes?//RF-powered SE051 operation is supported, but RF-only support for custom applet crypto/NVM updates must be confirmed and tested.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hope that helps,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Have a great day,&lt;BR /&gt;Kan&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2026 08:38:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.nxp.com/t5/Hardware/Applet/m-p/2396281#M186</guid>
      <dc:creator>Kan_Li</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-07-17T08:38:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Applet</title>
      <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/Hardware/Applet/m-p/2396473#M187</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Kan,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you for the detailed answers — very helpful. I will mark the post as correct.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Following up on question 1: I would like to request the documents you mentioned (custom Java Card applet development path for the SE051P — SDK, tools, Java Card / GlobalPlatform versions, and applet provisioning) via the secure file channel.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Could you please let me know the exact procedure? Specifically:&lt;BR /&gt;1. How do I access the secure file channel — should I open a private support case on the NXP support portal linked to this community account, or is there another route?&lt;BR /&gt;2. Which of these documents are available before an NDA is in place, and which ones require the NDA / local representative path you mentioned in question 2?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My goal at this stage is to review the development path documentation to plan the prototype phase; the NDA/MOQ discussion with the local representative would follow.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you again,&lt;BR /&gt;aaschi&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2026 19:01:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.nxp.com/t5/Hardware/Applet/m-p/2396473#M187</guid>
      <dc:creator>aaschi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-07-17T19:01:12Z</dc:date>
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