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    <title>8-bit MicrocontrollersのトピックRe: MC908AB32, ISP programmer - will it work?</title>
    <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/8-bit-Microcontrollers/MC908AB32-ISP-programmer-will-it-work/m-p/149404#M7873</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Hello,&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Welcome to the forum.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;I can see a couple of potential problems with your schematic -&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;OL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;For the standard MAX232 device, the capacitors C1, C2, C3 and C5 should have values of at&lt;BR /&gt;least 1u0.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;FONT size="2"&gt;If you wish to retain the 100n values, you would need to use the MAX202 device&lt;BR /&gt;instead.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;The source for Vtst should really be from the V+ pin, rather than T2out.&amp;nbsp; However, the&amp;nbsp;use of&lt;BR /&gt;the LM317 regulator&amp;nbsp;is problematic.&amp;nbsp; Due to its significant drop-out voltage, and when&lt;BR /&gt;supplied&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;FONT size="2"&gt;from the&amp;nbsp;MAX232, it is unlikely that there would be suffient input voltage for the&lt;BR /&gt;output to properly regulate&amp;nbsp;to 8.0 volts.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Typically, there should be approximately 9 volts at the V+ pin, but this could vary, depending on the&lt;BR /&gt;serial port load.&amp;nbsp; Vtst should lie within the limits 7.5 to 8.0 volts (not a large margin for this particular&lt;BR /&gt;device).&amp;nbsp; Therefore, the regulator would need to be a&amp;nbsp;low drop-out type.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;As an alternative to using a regulator,&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;FONT size="2"&gt;you might&amp;nbsp;connect two small signal diodes in series between&lt;BR /&gt;V+ and Vtst pins.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Regards,&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Mac&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Message Edited by bigmac on &lt;SPAN class="date_text"&gt;2007-09-25&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="time_text"&gt;01:02 PM&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:55:19 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>bigmac</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-09-25T09:55:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>MC908AB32, ISP programmer - will it work?</title>
      <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/8-bit-Microcontrollers/MC908AB32-ISP-programmer-will-it-work/m-p/149403#M7872</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Hello.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I've build programmer shown on the picture. My question is: Will it work? Microcontroller will be supplied by 5V and Vtst&amp;nbsp; will be about 7,6V&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;A href="http://musicpage.republika.pl/MC908AB32.PNG"&gt;&lt;IMG src="http://musicpage.republika.pl/MC908AB32.PNG" /&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;DIV&gt; &lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 04:53:45 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>bartek_zet</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-09-25T04:53:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: MC908AB32, ISP programmer - will it work?</title>
      <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/8-bit-Microcontrollers/MC908AB32-ISP-programmer-will-it-work/m-p/149404#M7873</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Hello,&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Welcome to the forum.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;I can see a couple of potential problems with your schematic -&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;OL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;For the standard MAX232 device, the capacitors C1, C2, C3 and C5 should have values of at&lt;BR /&gt;least 1u0.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;FONT size="2"&gt;If you wish to retain the 100n values, you would need to use the MAX202 device&lt;BR /&gt;instead.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;The source for Vtst should really be from the V+ pin, rather than T2out.&amp;nbsp; However, the&amp;nbsp;use of&lt;BR /&gt;the LM317 regulator&amp;nbsp;is problematic.&amp;nbsp; Due to its significant drop-out voltage, and when&lt;BR /&gt;supplied&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;FONT size="2"&gt;from the&amp;nbsp;MAX232, it is unlikely that there would be suffient input voltage for the&lt;BR /&gt;output to properly regulate&amp;nbsp;to 8.0 volts.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Typically, there should be approximately 9 volts at the V+ pin, but this could vary, depending on the&lt;BR /&gt;serial port load.&amp;nbsp; Vtst should lie within the limits 7.5 to 8.0 volts (not a large margin for this particular&lt;BR /&gt;device).&amp;nbsp; Therefore, the regulator would need to be a&amp;nbsp;low drop-out type.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;As an alternative to using a regulator,&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;FONT size="2"&gt;you might&amp;nbsp;connect two small signal diodes in series between&lt;BR /&gt;V+ and Vtst pins.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Regards,&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Mac&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Message Edited by bigmac on &lt;SPAN class="date_text"&gt;2007-09-25&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="time_text"&gt;01:02 PM&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:55:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.nxp.com/t5/8-bit-Microcontrollers/MC908AB32-ISP-programmer-will-it-work/m-p/149404#M7873</guid>
      <dc:creator>bigmac</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-09-25T09:55:19Z</dc:date>
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