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    <title>topic Re: MC68HC908QB8 &amp; 32.768kHz Crystal in 8-bit Microcontrollers</title>
    <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/8-bit-Microcontrollers/MC68HC908QB8-32-768kHz-Crystal/m-p/135979#M4174</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Hello,&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Do you mean that you need to vary the capacitor values to achieve oscillation?&amp;nbsp; If so, it may indicate that you need to reduce the "limit" resistor in series with the crystal.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;A good starting point for the capacitors would be 22p for each, although to achieve the correct operating frequency may need somewhat different values.&amp;nbsp; The shunt resistor used for biasing should have a value of at least 1M0, but an even higher value is probably preferred for the low frequency crystal.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;The series resistor might commence with a value of say 100k, but may need reduction if oscillation is reluctant to start.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Be aware that the low frequency crystal may take a second or two to achieve maximum oscillation amplitude.&amp;nbsp; This will need to be taken into account before switching from the internal oscillator.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;I don't know the practicality of using such a low frequency crystal for the QB8 device - this will result in a bus frequency of only 8.192 kHz, so operation will be very very slow.&amp;nbsp; At this frequency, many of the peripherals would not be usable.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;A better choice may be to use a device containing a PLL or FLL facility to multiply the bus frequency.&amp;nbsp; The 9S08QG8 might be a possibility.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Regards,&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Mac&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Message Edited by bigmac on &lt;SPAN class="date_text"&gt;2007-06-07&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="time_text"&gt;01:15 AM&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 22:11:45 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>bigmac</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-06-06T22:11:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>MC68HC908QB8 &amp; 32.768kHz Crystal</title>
      <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/8-bit-Microcontrollers/MC68HC908QB8-32-768kHz-Crystal/m-p/135978#M4173</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;DIV&gt; &lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Has anyone any experience using a 32.768Khz Crystal with the 980QB8 processor?&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;The main problem I have is consistency.&amp;nbsp; I can get the device to oscillate but the capacitors seem to vary significantly between devices.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;What Crystal, capacitors, feedback and limit resistors did you use.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;--&lt;BR /&gt;Alban edit: change subject unit from "Mhz" to "kHz"&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Message Edited by Alban on &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="date_text"&gt;2007-06-06&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="time_text"&gt;10:53 AM&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:08:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.nxp.com/t5/8-bit-Microcontrollers/MC68HC908QB8-32-768kHz-Crystal/m-p/135978#M4173</guid>
      <dc:creator>Kenm</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-06-06T16:08:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: MC68HC908QB8 &amp; 32.768kHz Crystal</title>
      <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/8-bit-Microcontrollers/MC68HC908QB8-32-768kHz-Crystal/m-p/135979#M4174</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Hello,&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Do you mean that you need to vary the capacitor values to achieve oscillation?&amp;nbsp; If so, it may indicate that you need to reduce the "limit" resistor in series with the crystal.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;A good starting point for the capacitors would be 22p for each, although to achieve the correct operating frequency may need somewhat different values.&amp;nbsp; The shunt resistor used for biasing should have a value of at least 1M0, but an even higher value is probably preferred for the low frequency crystal.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;The series resistor might commence with a value of say 100k, but may need reduction if oscillation is reluctant to start.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Be aware that the low frequency crystal may take a second or two to achieve maximum oscillation amplitude.&amp;nbsp; This will need to be taken into account before switching from the internal oscillator.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;I don't know the practicality of using such a low frequency crystal for the QB8 device - this will result in a bus frequency of only 8.192 kHz, so operation will be very very slow.&amp;nbsp; At this frequency, many of the peripherals would not be usable.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;A better choice may be to use a device containing a PLL or FLL facility to multiply the bus frequency.&amp;nbsp; The 9S08QG8 might be a possibility.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Regards,&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Mac&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Message Edited by bigmac on &lt;SPAN class="date_text"&gt;2007-06-07&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="time_text"&gt;01:15 AM&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 22:11:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.nxp.com/t5/8-bit-Microcontrollers/MC68HC908QB8-32-768kHz-Crystal/m-p/135979#M4174</guid>
      <dc:creator>bigmac</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-06-06T22:11:45Z</dc:date>
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