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problems burning 908GP32CPE using PROG08sz and ICS08

kitoff — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:08:58 GMT

Hi,

I am using PROG08SZ software and ICS08 dev. board to program GP32CPE chips.

After passing all the security bits successfully and choosing the .08P file as 908_GP32_highspeed.08P, the following words appears:"Error writing block data to part.Disabling block write". Then the PROG08SZ software is too slow to reply any action that I click the mouse, so I have to use ctrl+alt+del and then kill this procedure.

Meantime, I use this software+hardware to program 908JL16 and LJ24 chips, everything is OK.

In CW5.1 for HC08 the same problem and indication appears.

Please help me, I do not know where is mistake.

snapshot of the error massege is attacked here below.

Thanks a lot.

gpewfail3.JPG

gp32fail1.JPG

gpewfail2.JPG

Message Edited by t.dowe on 2009-09-04 02:24 PM

Re: problems burning 908GP32CPE using PROG08sz and ICS08

joerg — Tue, 01 May 2007 00:34:07 GMT

Hi kitoff

I know this kind off message very well! In my case it was the USB to RS232 converter or if i was using the normal com ports then the FIFO was not disabled. Since i do not know how the PROG08SZ is attached to you PC tell me. I noticed also, that there are differences between the devices of the HC08 family i.e the QY4 worked (sometimes) and the AB32 not. It also is a difference between Windows XP an ME!

If your programmer is attached to a com port try to switch off the FIFO!

Good luck
Joerg

PS: I did never have problems with my MONLINK08 on the LPT port!

Re: problems burning 908GP32CPE using PROG08sz and ICS08

kitoff — Tue, 01 May 2007 16:27:52 GMT

Hi, joerg

Thanks very much for your advice. I rush to try and found the problem still exists. But your advice give me some indication.

1. I am really using a usb to Rs-232 conventer because my lapbook doesn't have a com port.

2. I use PL2303 chipset conventer before and found no RS232 communication is correct, after that I bought a HP represented conventer using FDTI chip. This is so called a high speed usb conventer and mostly I use it without any problem in other conditions which need a RS232 communication.

3. I disabled FIFO option and still won't work.

4. I tried another desktop computer which has hardware com port and FIFO disabled, but it didn't work too.

5. I read a passage from a blog which told me this person designed a board for 908LJ12, and in his writing he use SR12.08P file as the programming algorithm. I am so confused how the SR12 algorithm file worked well for LJ12 chip. And I try to use this SR12.08P for my GP32. To the very surprise, it worked. erase,verify,and program...all the command turn to be avaliable. But the value read from the chip are all FF,this is not correct.

So I think the GP32.08P file is something wrong. Do you think so? how can I rewrite this file to get it work?

Regards,

kitoff

useGP3208p.JPG

useSR1208p1.JPG

Message Edited by kitoff on 2007-05-0110:31 AM

Message Edited by t.dowe on 2009-09-04 02:27 PM

Re: problems burning 908GP32CPE using PROG08sz and ICS08

Alban — Tue, 01 May 2007 16:40:21 GMT

Hi Kitoff,

Great posts you gave us with a lot of info, Thanks.
I've used the GP32 with CodeWarrior and P&E Micro tools quite a lot and have never seen troubles.

May you please tell me if you work with up-to-date flash programmation files from P&E Microcomputers ?

68HC08 Flash Algorithms (link to PEMicro Website Direct)

Flash is the same on most HC08, that is why you can use other algo. The differences in algorithms are coming from the differences in the memory map of the particular microcontrollers.

Sometimes we have Mark from P&E Microcomputers screening Freescale Community, maybe he can comment.
Otherwise, maybe you could notify this to P&E Micro Support through their interface.
They are very helpful and give useful answers.

PE Micro Support Forum
PE Micro Support

Cheers,
Alban.

Re: problems burning 908GP32CPE using PROG08sz and ICS08

peg — Wed, 02 May 2007 04:41:00 GMT

Hi kitoff,

I have been using the high speed version for GP32 version 1.03 .08p file (as you seem to be) for a long time now and never had any trouble whatsoever (with hundreds of devices).

Have you tried the non-high speed version? Perhaps your hardware does not handle the high speed one properly.

Message Edited by peg on 2007-05-0207:43 AM

Re: problems burning 908GP32CPE using PROG08sz and ICS08

Maraja — Wed, 16 May 2007 07:06:12 GMT

Hi,

I had the same problem when try program using a BBL PCMCIA Card adapter for RS232. After changes many parameters I found the one that make load algorithm successfully done.

Maybe the FIFO receiver parameter should by 1 for other adapters and hard RS232 too. To found where's the parameter try see hardware guide's or on Manage device on Ruindows®. In my case deactive FIFO isn't enough, first I need to set receiver with "1".

Best regards,

Marajá

RS232_FIFO_Config_to_PROG08SZ1.JPG

Message Edited by t.dowe on 2009-09-04 01:59 PM

Re: problems burning 908GP32CPE using PROG08sz and ICS08

peg — Wed, 16 May 2007 08:04:11 GMT

Hi,

All of my computers have "real" serial ports and I always just use the default FIFO setting of 14 on recieve and 16 on transmit without any issues.

I have tested two converters and found that they did not work with MON08 adapters but never got to the bottom of it as I don't have to....... yet. Field service notebook PC needs replacing soon. Two problems here, have they a serial port and all the good deals come with Vista!

Re: problems burning 908GP32CPE using PROG08sz and ICS08

kitoff — Mon, 21 May 2007 08:02:33 GMT

Hi, all

It is 20 days after our subscription to P&E service and only 2 messages with no valuable information replied 10 days ago,and no more contact or feedback from the service arrived us.

We really do not want to complain anyone from Freescale or P&E, but the service for customer is actually so not satisfied.

We have decided to stop all projects using Freescale MCUs and replace them with MCUs from other provider.

Fully sorry!

Regards,

kitoff

Re: problems burning 908GP32CPE using PROG08sz and ICS08

Alegna — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 07:20:20 GMT

hey...

I found this in another forum and it works for me .. ..and I had the same trouble

In the .08P file, comment the line BLOCK_WRITE .
This line is at the top of the file.

Maybe it works for you too..

I'm using a usb-rs232 module

good luck

Re: problems burning 908GP32CPE using PROG08sz and ICS08

Alban — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 03:32:44 GMT

你好，Kitoff

I am very sorry to hear that the support you receive was not appropriate.
Also I am disappointed that you are leaving Freescale great products because of a problem with one Third Party who are usually so helpful.

Customer feedback, positive and negative, is valued at Freescale.
That is why this matter has been taken offline by Management for explanations and understanding.

Best Regards,
Alban / 冉昂理.

Re: problems burning 908GP32CPE using PROG08sz and ICS08

P_EMark — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 09:12:44 GMT

Hello All:

Sorry to be so late in chiming in!

First off, we've found that most users have problems using USB/Serial converters, and we generally don't recommend this setup if at all avoidable. That being said, some users do have success in this regard.

As I mentioned in a direct e-mail to you, Kitoff, we did discover that for a brief period we did have a bad algortihm in distribution. Did you download the algorithms from the link above, as Alban suggested? If you had, this would address your issue (if you are in fact facing an issue regarding this bad algorithm).

I apologize that you didn't receive the answers you were looking for from P&E; however, I would like to "second" what Alban said -- usually P&E does provide very prompt and knowledgable support. Your experience is the exception, rather than the rule.

Please let us know if you've updated the algorithm, and if you're still having this issue after so doing.

Regards,
Mark
P&E

Re: problems burning 908GP32CPE using PROG08sz and ICS08

FOLSOT — Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:58:50 GMT

Hello all!!

After finalize my beautiful programmer with a serial-usb converter I read this thread and is true the programmer don’t function using PROG08sz. After broken my head I found the problem with the serial-usb converter, this is in the converter descriptors because use 2 bulk descriptors and don’t guarantee latency time only in the input transfer (for the PC perspective), lamentably the software P&E verify in real time the send data to the hc08 and prevent to work ok.

Regards,

Re: problems burning 908GP32CPE using PROG08sz and ICS08

Alban — Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:20:02 GMT

Hello,

The matter is not up to whatever is plugged on the Pseudo serial port.
The matter is up to the USB norm and implementation.

What you observe with P&E Micro tool has been observed with many other software. You can't blame someone for checking that what he/she has done is actually happening as it is actually good software practise.

Have you tried to remove the buffers (like for UART 16650) in the serial port parameters ?
Latency is limited when not using buffers (of course).
Then, it depends on which manufacturer your cable is from. I was reading forums where some brands of USB-RS232 converters were better than others.
Also, I think there was such talk on the USB latency a while ago on this Forum.

Regards,
Alban.

Re: problems burning 908GP32CPE using PROG08sz and ICS08

FOLSOT — Tue, 12 Jun 2007 05:57:21 GMT

Hello Alban.

Thanks very much for your suggest, I disable and change the buffers FIFO to the minimum and this isn’t the major problem, the problem is in the converter descriptors (bulk transfers) and the length of this descriptors (2 descriptors*64kb) because this works such as a internal buffer when the pc is busy or when attaches many devices to the root hub.

Regards

Re: problems burning 908GP32CPE using PROG08sz and ICS08

FOLSOT — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 09:26:58 GMT

Definitively no, freescale says:

MON08 relies on sending a 10-bit serial break at various times. We have found that some USB-serial converters do not function correctly when they see this break signal. They distort the timing, and in at least some cases they drop or mangle the following byte. This is a problem in the converter's driver, and there is nothing that NoICE can do to work around it.
USB-serial converters based on the Prolific chip seem to be unusable for MON08. We have successfully used NoICE08 with USB-serial converters based on the FDTI FT2232 chip, and on the Silicon Laboratories CP2102. If you can't see the markings on the chip in your converter, open the Windows Device Manager. Find the COM port associated with your converter, right-click, and select "Properties". Either the name of the device or the information in the driver tab may identify the vendor.
If possible, we recommend that you use a "real" serial port for MON08. If your new PC doesn't have one, and you cannot find an appropriate USB-serial converter, you may want to purchase a PCI serial card.

Re: problems burning 908GP32CPE using PROG08sz and ICS08

peg — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 09:42:06 GMT

Hi FOLSOT,

Did you get this comment verbatim from Freescale?

I believe this is comments made by John Hartman of NoICE.

Re: problems burning 908GP32CPE using PROG08sz and ICS08

kitoff — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 08:00:55 GMT

Hi, all

I have to thank you all for any help.

To Ablan, I am sorry about this thing too, but it's up to the decison of my boss and I can't force him to change his determination. In fact I love freescale's chips and I still use them personally, but of course not GP32, this never works for me and I fell my head hot when touching is now,hehe.

BTW, your chinese is pretty good and I hope I can invite you to have a cup of chinese tea someday in China.

To Peg, I am using real com port, definitely! I am not talking problems of USB-COM convertors. Up to now never worked well with GP32+mon08.

To Maraja, I tried your instruction and failed, maybe you are using a pcmia card and I don't have one that.

To Alegna, I will try that you suggust. Thanks a lot.

To Mark, your replies are always late and bad. The same to your service. The only thing I can do is never considering any PE products, as I did now.

SO SORRY FOR YOUR POOR Service.

To FOLSOT, I also read the issue from noice website. USB convertors with PL2303 chips are not working with the SW+laptop. I have a convertor HP OEM convertor with FDTI chip and works fine for all 08s except for GP32.

Message Edited by kitoff on 2007-06-14 02:25 AM

Message Edited by kitoff on 2007-06-14 02:26 AM

Re: problems burning 908GP32CPE using PROG08sz and ICS08

PeterHouse — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:06:38 GMT

Software Issues:

I now only use the latest version of PE software and remove the old before installing the new. Whenever I have installed over the top I have experienced unexpected or unusual behavior.

Go to P&E and get the command line batch programming software "CPROG08sz.exe". Once you configure it, it just works every time and can be run from a command line or from inside most programming editors like Crimson, Codewrite, or Slickedit.

Note: I have played with Codewarrior and do not use it as I prefer Slickedit and P&E casmhcs08_pro.exe assembler and if I have to, C.

Hardware Issues:

Either use a real serial port or get a USB EdgePort. I have been using the EdgePort/4, 4 port USB to serial converter, for almost 5 years and it ALWAYS works and has true RS232 levels and accepts 5v-0v serial connections - it works just like a hardware serial port should. I use this device to connect various test equipment and MON08 programmers. The key thing I have found with USB to serial devices is not just the hardware but the firmware and Windows drivers.

Freescale makes good CPUs and also has their share of issues. You will find if you change to another CPU vendor - they all have skeletons in their closets and various gotchas which you will have to work through - HANG TOUGH !!!

Good Luck,

Peter House

Re: problems burning 908GP32CPE using PROG08sz and ICS08

erooll — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:33:05 GMT

I use a USB serial converter, with PROG08 and later directly from CW6, sometimes I have problems in the programation process, then I need to retry to program, I agree to afirmate that need more test with USB serial converters before release a software, like PROG08 and even CodeWarrior, CW calls the hiwave, that is a P&E module; other problem in Codewarrior at moment to recognize COM Ports it's that need to have ports from number 1 and so, if I don't have a serial port with numer 1, the software don't recognize nothing port, or if have 1,2 and jump to 6 don't show the COM 6.
But all of this is make some adjust to software P&E and CW.

Thanks.

Re: problems burning 908GP32CPE using PROG08sz and ICS08

slyrye — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:11:29 GMT

Hi guyz:

I've been dealing with diffuculties of burning my 908GP32CPE but after changing my powersupply from 9v to 24v my PROGSZ08 works like a charm!!! my burner is base on MEGAPROG i select class1 hardware during interface inquiries and believe me it couldn't get any better!!! just change your powersupplies from ordinary adaptor to 24v switching powersupply i bought it from ebay!!!

Peace!!!