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M9S08JM60 Is anyone using these yet?

TurboBob — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 03:50:43 GMT

The JM series is just in time to keep me from giving up on Freescale and switching to another manufacturer with integrated USB. My last project used the AW60, and an FTDI USB interface. It was frustrating to pay more for the comm's chip than the CPU. The private labelling of the USB drivers went ok, and I was able to modify the AN2295 bootloader to work. I am hoping the USB solution provided by the JM series will work smoothly (Windows is usually the biggest problem....)

So, has anyone got the demo kit yet? I have been reading thru the doc's, but there is nothing better than having hardware to experiment with.

Is it possible that the JM60 can be a USB host, and save data in a USB flash drive?

I am hoping that Codewarrior 5.1 will work with these, as I don't want to have yet another installation of codewarrior on my machine (running 3.1 and 5.1)

Thanks guys, and Happy NewYear!!

Bob Bailey
Bailey Engineering

Re: M9S08JM60 Is anyone using these yet?

UtopiaTim — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:02:25 GMT

Hi Bob,

I'm in a similar position as you - just started looking for a USB part when the 60

came out.

The only service packs that have the JM60 listed (that I've seen) are for CW 6.0 & 6.1,

so looks like you are gonna have to upgrade.

As I understand it, the example code for the project hasn't been released yet, so don't

think they are shipping the board yet. Think it is sometime in Mid January.

I've started working on my code... (a newbie to USB & C), but starting to see the light.

The examples that I've gleaned from various ap notes leave a bit to be desired - great if

you want to talk to memories or other micros, but nothing specific to things like real

time clocks, etc. Would be great if F'scale would publish an ap-note with the basics -

take a 'typical' Maxim RTC (or any of the other 'simple' I2C parts), & write both interrupt

driven and polled routines.

Anyhow, hope things go well for you in the new year!!

Tim

Re: M9S08JM60 Is anyone using these yet?

UtopiaTim — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:32:26 GMT

Hi Bob,

The ap note comments (& wishes) were directed at the I2C portion of the

code that I'm working on. Will start on the USB section a bit later on.

It does look like some of the downloadable USB stuff is pretty

good tho.

Tim

Re: M9S08JM60 Is anyone using these yet?

ac — Sun, 06 Jan 2008 22:16:36 GMT

hi, i'm kinda new to this, can you help me..

i'm using mc9s08jm60 microchip, what preprocessor directive(.h) should i include to program it?

tnx alot..

Re: M9S08JM60 Is anyone using these yet?

mustang — Mon, 07 Jan 2008 14:26:35 GMT

Hi Bob,

Freescale has JM60 Codewarrior SP for V5.1, V6.0 and V6.1. You don't need to install a new version Codewarrior. You can download JM60 SP on freescale website. http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=S08JM&nodeId=01624684491437&fpsp=1&tab=Design_Tools_Tab

Hi ac,

JM60 header files are included in CW JM60 SP. You can d/l it if you have installed CW.

Re: M9S08JM60 Is anyone using these yet?

ac — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 07:23:01 GMT

tnx pare...

i found it usefull...

but i have another question..

do i have to include a driver in my program to be able to communicate the mc9s08jm60 with my pc using USB?
(this is already in application to the MCU, not just debugging)

another thnx in adv..

Re: M9S08JM60 Is anyone using these yet?

JimDon — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 07:49:22 GMT

Yes, I have the DEMOJM board.

It really needs no drivers.
- It comes with sample for Mouse Keyboard and generic Hid. Also a CDC sample.
Obviously, the mouse and keyboard need no drivers.
A generic Hid device needs no driver and it comes with a sample VC project.
The serial port code uses the built MS usb serial driver !!! All you need is an ini file.

I have expanded the generic demo to read the accelerometer, and pot and have re- written the hid interface code so that you don't need the DDK to build it. I also added a separate read thread and a circular buffer so that it will not lose read data - the accelerometer pumps out quite a bit of data. I also changed the Hid device to send 8 byte reports instead of single byte and added a frequency generator controlled buy the USB.

I will eventually set up a download for all this, and I am making a DLL for the hid interface that can be used in .NET or whatever.

This is one of the best demo boards I have ever had, and some of the best USB free drivers. And there is more to come - the CF V1 chip will support OTG. I think it will plug into this board.

Another cool thing is mine came with a 64 pin LQFP socket and a vaccum pen.

Re: M9S08JM60 Is anyone using these yet?

TurboBob — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 03:17:09 GMT

Excellent to hear. I received my demo board but have not fired it up yet.

The JM chips look to be perfect for my next 2 or 3 projects.

I am looking forward to the DLL, I want a no-hassle install for my next project.

I am using C++Builder5 for my Windows stuff, as it is really simple to create decent apps.

My next project I just need to exchange small amounts of data with the PC, so the HID mode should work well.

I am implementing a Graphical LCD, and will post the code as a small contribution to the community.

Regards,

Bob

Re: M9S08JM60 Is anyone using these yet?

TurboBob — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:23:39 GMT

I am going to start my USB project soon.

Can the generic HID mode be set up to just make a section of RAM in the cpu mirror some ram in the PC, updated via USB? It would be great to just write to an array in the PC and know that it will appear in the cpu. It would really simplify all my communication headaches.

Bob

Re: M9S08JM60 Is anyone using these yet?

JimDon — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:24:25 GMT

Sure why not?

As I mentioned have done a major upgrade of the demo that will be released shortly from freescale.

Any data you want can be in the reports.
Did you order the board yet?

Message Edited by JimDon on 2008-02-15 12:30 AM

Re: M9S08JM60 Is anyone using these yet?

TurboBob — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:38:09 GMT

Yes, I have received my demo board. I agree that it is an extremely nice demo board.

I'm new to USB as far as working with it directly. My last project used the 9S08AW60 and an FTDI FT232RL in VCP (Virtual Com Port) mode. It had its drawbacks, but in the end worked pretty well.

My plan is to have the PC and 9S08JM exchange a few hundred bytes, probably using the BIOS tick as a time base. At this point its not clear how best to implement this, but I'm sure once I get into it a solution will be straightforward.

Thanks

Bob

Re: M9S08JM60 Is anyone using these yet?

JimDon — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:21:10 GMT

BTW Mouser does no have stock yet, but the are showing a price of 46.78 - the 64 pin socket and the Vacuum pick-up pen are worth that alone (not to mention a full P&E BDM, that wil work on all HCS08 and HCS12 as well). If you had a QE Board, you could use those chip carriers on it too, I believe
.
They give you the socket so you can drop in the CF V1 USB chip when it is ready. It will support on the OTG, and will support High Speed as well. If you haven't looked into the QE yet, the CF V! has optimized instructions that can get 8-12 times the performance of the 08 with almost identical code size, and not much more cost. ( and no paging!!!). The JM CF USB chip will be pin for pin and register compatible, except of course the added features..
Over the years I have look at quite a few usb chips, and for doing cool things with ease this will be the best.
I can for see NEVER having to write a device diver again. I mentioned it before, but I am so pleased that the CDC stack uses the built in MS serial driver How about an I2c Port that looks just like a com port to the system?.Ina afternoon or two.

Mouser part numbers
841-DEMOJMSKT 46.78 JM USB (In Stock soon - will BO for auto ship)

:
841-DEMOQE128 49.50 08QE128 and CFQE128 Included. (In Stock)

Re: M9S08JM60 Is anyone using these yet?

dp — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:19:12 GMT

I recently received the DEMOJM board and have experimented with the CMXUSB examples, JM60 bootloader and LED blink files. I'd like to see the accelerometer and other examples in the JM60 GUI but can't find CW projects or s19 files to do it. I'd also like to load the original firmware back into the device but face the same issue. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks.
Dave

Re: M9S08JM60 Is anyone using these yet?

JimDon — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:19:03 GMT

Did you install the CD?
The CW items are in:
C:\CMXUSB_LITE\usb-peripheral\projects\CodeWarrior\hc9S08jm60\hid-demo
(Not sure if this is what comes on the board, but this is the hid demo)
You would need to build it and burn it to get the original demo back.

The PC side is in:
C:\CMXUSB_LITE\usb-peripheral\pc-side

You can down load the orginal CMX code from here.

I will message you with links to my demo, as it will be moving soon and is still beta (though some else did try it out and seems fine).

Re: M9S08JM60 Is anyone using these yet?

dp — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 05:46:10 GMT

I have compiled and burned the hid-demo and most of it works but it's definitely not the same as the original firmware that came in the chip. The original firmware changed the brightness of one of the leds when the pot was adjusted and produced different frequency tones when the buttons were pushed. Does anyone know where the code and/or project for that orginal firmware is located?

On the matter of the hid-demo, when I try to run the hid-led-demo.exe program , I get "HID initialization failed" in a popup message-box. This is with the hid-demo firmware running the "generic" startup (press and hold board button PTG1 at reset). The other two hid-demos (no buttons pressed or PTG0 pressed at reset) work so I know the board and USB port are functioning.

I can also successfully use the USB bootloader examples with the JM60 GUI but only the Blink 1 and Blink 2 s19 examples seem to work.

Is datalogger Project.abs.s19 supposed to work with the Data Acquistion and Accelerometer example is JM60 GUI? Datalogger.s19 doesn't seem to do anything (no accompanying project so I can't examine the code) and the Data Acquisition and Accelerometer in JM60 GUI don't seem to do anything with any of the firmware. What am I missing?

Thanks.
Dave

Re: M9S08JM60 Is anyone using these yet?

dp — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 06:59:14 GMT

...and yes, I did load everything from the DVD.
Dave

Re: M9S08JM60 Is anyone using these yet?

dp — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:46:27 GMT

I see at the PE Micro site that their DEMOQE TOOLKIT contains CW projects that appear very close to the code that came installed in the DEMOJM. Maybe they just don't have it available yet. I'll take it up with them. Thanks.
Dave

Re: M9S08JM60 Is anyone using these yet?

JimDon — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:02:05 GMT

Dave,

I can tell you this, none of the P&E programs that require the demo software to do something work with DEMOJM . All the sample code was a CMX effort, and P&E really just did the hardware, unlike the DEMOQE.

I have talked to P&E about getting these to work with DEMOJM, basically using my modified HID demo as the CMX code does nothing with the accelerometer.

However, until Freescale publishes my updated demo, I have this on hold, as the current demo does simply not provide any hooks, and P&E is not going to change the CMX code.

I will try re burning the original demo, but now that I think about it, I don't recall seeing any code for the pot or speaker in the source code. I do know the hid demo from the code sample should work with the PC app. To be honest, I think I burned from the source code right away, so I may not have noticed the features you mention.

I suppose it is possible that the original demo code never got shipped. Since P&E manufactures the board, it is possible what the factory burn for the demo is different. from what CMX delivers.

I will check into this.
Update:
The hid demo, burned from
C:\CMXUSB_LITE\CDRO\usb-peripheral\projects\CodeWarrior\hc9S08jm60\hid-demo
Holding SW2 and resetting did work with hid-led-demo for me.

Also the P&E logic analyzer connects, and the Serial Grapher connects, but since the code sends nothing it will of course it will not graph any thing.

PTE2/3 connect to the logic analyzer, so if you write code to toggle them, you should see it on the display.

I suppose the QE Serial Grapher code could be ported form the QE demo if you needed it. It's a cute trick that might be useful, but since the built in P&E USB serial port interface is not exposed, I never saw any use for it myself.

If you really must have the original demo, I suppose you could ask P&E, but explain yourself very clearly as they probably don't know about this. As I said, CMX provided the demo software.

Message Edited by JimDon on 2008-02-23 12:28 AM

Re: M9S08JM60 Is anyone using these yet?

dp — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 04:31:23 GMT

PE Micro sent me the CW project for the original firmware that ships with the DEMOJM board. They have given me permission to upload it here.
Dave

DEMO9S08JM60_Quick_Start1.zip

Message Edited by t.dowe on 2009-10-27 12:43 PM

Re: M9S08JM60 Is anyone using these yet?

JimDon — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 06:55:55 GMT

Oh, ya I remember that code from the QE demo.

Don't really de bounce keys like that. It doesn't really de bounce the keys, it just delays 10ms, which sort of de bounces them but not really (you are supposed to ensure that the value has stopped changing for n amount of time). It also does not take take into account that another key may have been pressed plus it hangs until you release the key. It work for the demo fine, but may not produce the results you need in a real appication.