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    <title>8-bit MicrocontrollersのトピックRe: Xtal question</title>
    <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/8-bit-Microcontrollers/Xtal-question-MC9S08GT16A/m-p/169484#M11236</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;Hi,&lt;BR /&gt;Interestingly, while Rs (~100k) is normally used with a 32kHz xtal on these devices, it is zero ohms in the oscillator circuit of the DEMOGB60 board.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The details of this can be seen in section A.9 of the datasheet.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Message Edited by peg on &lt;SPAN class="date_text"&gt;2007-12-03&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="time_text"&gt;10:47 AM&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 07:41:54 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>peg</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-12-03T07:41:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Xtal question - MC9S08GT16A</title>
      <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/8-bit-Microcontrollers/Xtal-question-MC9S08GT16A/m-p/169481#M11233</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;DIV&gt; &lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;This may seem like a silly question, but I am looking at the example layout of a &lt;SPAN class="navbar_text"&gt;MC9S08GT16A and I see that the xtal has an RF and an RS&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;SPAN class="navbar_text"&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;SPAN class="navbar_text"&gt;What purpose do those resistors play and are they really necessary? If so what value of RS and RF do you recommend?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;SPAN class="navbar_text"&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;SPAN class="navbar_text"&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;SPAN class="navbar_text"&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;SPAN class="navbar_text"&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;SPAN class="navbar_text"&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;SPAN class="navbar_text"&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;SPAN class="navbar_text"&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;SPAN class="navbar_text"&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;SPAN class="navbar_text"&gt;Added p/n to subject.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Message Edited by NLFSJ on &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="date_text"&gt;2007-12-03&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="time_text"&gt;02:48 AM&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 21:42:03 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Kerms</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-02T21:42:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Xtal question</title>
      <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/8-bit-Microcontrollers/Xtal-question-MC9S08GT16A/m-p/169482#M11234</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Hello,&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;The resistor Rf is necessary to bias the oscillator into the linear operating region, required during start-up of the oscillator.&amp;nbsp; The value is usually non-critical, somewhere between 1M and 10M.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;The resistor Rs is sometimes required to limit the drive applied to the crystal, particularly with low frequency (32kHz) crystals, with a value of&amp;nbsp;typically 47k or 100k.&amp;nbsp; It is not usually required for higher frequency crystals, and should be a short circuit in these cases.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Regards,&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Mac&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 21:57:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.nxp.com/t5/8-bit-Microcontrollers/Xtal-question-MC9S08GT16A/m-p/169482#M11234</guid>
      <dc:creator>bigmac</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-02T21:57:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Xtal question - MC9S08GT16A</title>
      <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/8-bit-Microcontrollers/Xtal-question-MC9S08GT16A/m-p/169483#M11235</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Thanks Mac, I had seen the 1M resistor before on an ST chip, but found that it wasn't needed.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Thank you for clarifying.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Added p/n to subject.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Message Edited by NLFSJ on &lt;SPAN class="date_text"&gt;2007-12-03&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="time_text"&gt;02:49 AM&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 07:28:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.nxp.com/t5/8-bit-Microcontrollers/Xtal-question-MC9S08GT16A/m-p/169483#M11235</guid>
      <dc:creator>Kerms</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-03T07:28:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Xtal question</title>
      <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/8-bit-Microcontrollers/Xtal-question-MC9S08GT16A/m-p/169484#M11236</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;Hi,&lt;BR /&gt;Interestingly, while Rs (~100k) is normally used with a 32kHz xtal on these devices, it is zero ohms in the oscillator circuit of the DEMOGB60 board.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The details of this can be seen in section A.9 of the datasheet.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Message Edited by peg on &lt;SPAN class="date_text"&gt;2007-12-03&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="time_text"&gt;10:47 AM&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 07:41:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.nxp.com/t5/8-bit-Microcontrollers/Xtal-question-MC9S08GT16A/m-p/169484#M11236</guid>
      <dc:creator>peg</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-03T07:41:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Xtal question - MC9S08GT16A</title>
      <link>https://community.nxp.com/t5/8-bit-Microcontrollers/Xtal-question-MC9S08GT16A/m-p/169485#M11237</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Hello Peg,&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;With a Vdd of 3.3V, there will be lower drive to the crystal, compared with Vdd of 5V.&amp;nbsp; This may justify the omission of Rs for your demo board.&amp;nbsp; It would be interesting to observe how much the drive voltage to the crystal circuit&amp;nbsp;is actuallly&amp;nbsp;reduced with the inclusion of a 100k resistor.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Regards,&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Mac&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Added p/n to subject.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Message Edited by NLFSJ on &lt;SPAN class="date_text"&gt;2007-12-03&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="time_text"&gt;02:50 AM&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 09:07:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.nxp.com/t5/8-bit-Microcontrollers/Xtal-question-MC9S08GT16A/m-p/169485#M11237</guid>
      <dc:creator>bigmac</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-12-03T09:07:40Z</dc:date>
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